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MEMORANDUM OPINION
In the summer of 2022 in connection with its investigation into illegal efforts to overturn
the 2020 presidential election, the Federal Bureau of Investigation seized Congressman Scott
Perry’s personal cell phone and created a forensic copy of its contents pursuant to a search
warrant. Perry subsequently filed a Motion for Nondisclosure, arguing that over 2,000 of the
seized communications were privileged under the Constitution’s Speech or Debate Clause. After
this Court’s predecessor ordered him to disclose the vast majority of those records, Perry
appealed. The D.C. Circuit thereafter determined that the district court had failed to apply the
fact-specific privilege inquiry required by Gravel v. United States, 408 U.S. 606 (1972), to many
of Perry’s communications. The Circuit, accordingly, remanded for this Court to apply Gravel
on a document-by-document basis. Having now analyzed each of the 2,055 documents still at
issue, the Court will order Perry to disclose 1,659 of them, but not the 396 others.
I. Background
An account of the relevant factual background appears in the D.C. Circuit’s opinion in
this case. In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th 355, 359–61 (D.C. Cir. 2023). To recap briefly, following
the 2020 presidential election, Perry — who represents Pennsylvania’s Tenth Congressional
District in the House of Representatives — used his personal cell phone to send and receive
communications that the government believes may be relevant to its investigation into events
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leading to the January 6 attempted insurrection. Id. at 359. Pursuant to a search warrant issued
by a magistrate judge in the Middle District of Pennsylvania, the FBI seized the phone and
The FBI then sought a separate search warrant from this Court’s predecessor to review
the contents of the extraction. Id. Former Chief Judge Beryl Howell issued the warrant, “with
the proviso that Representative Perry would have an opportunity to assert any claims of privilege
under the Speech or Debate Clause before the government could review the phone’s contents.”
Id. (citing United States v. Rayburn House Off. Bldg., Room 2113, Washington, D.C. 20515,
497 F.3d 654, 662 (D.C. Cir. 2007) (Member of Congress must have an “opportunity to identify
and assert the privilege with respect to legislative materials before their compelled disclosure to
Executive agents”)).
Perry thus filed a Motion for Nondisclosure, asserting that 2,219 records were protected
by the Speech or Debate Clause. Id. Judge Howell conducted a careful in camera review of
each of the contested records and sorted them into three categories: (1) Perry’s communications
with individuals outside the federal government, (2) his communications with other Members of
Congress and with congressional staff, and (3) his communications with members of the
Executive Branch. Id. at 360–61. Reasoning that “informal factfinding” — i.e., a Member’s
protected by the Speech or Debate Clause, Judge Howell held that the records in categories 1 and
3 were not privileged. Id. As to category 2, she concluded that “some of these communications
were privileged legislative acts, while others were too far removed from the legislative process.”
Id. at 360. She ordered Perry, accordingly, to disclose all but 164 of the disputed records; of
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those, she permitted him to withhold 161 in full and three in part. Id.; see ECF No. 42 (Redacted
Order) at 1.
The D.C. Circuit affirmed in part, vacated in part, and remanded. In re Sealed Case, 80
F.4th at 373. It reiterated that the “proper inquiry” when assessing whether something is covered
by the Speech or Debate Clause is “fact-specific and considers whether the act is ‘legislative,’
i.e., ‘an integral part of the deliberative and communicative processes by which Members
participate in committee and House proceedings with respect to the consideration and passage or
rejection of proposed legislation or with respect to other matters which the Constitution places
within the jurisdiction of either House.’” Id. at 359 (quoting Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625).
The Circuit thus remanded the district court’s privilege determinations over categories 1
and 3. Id. at 371. Rejecting Judge Howell’s conclusion that informal factfinding is categorically
not privileged, the Court of Appeals explained that “[t]he labels ‘formal’ and ‘informal’
factfinding gloss over the appropriate analysis under the Speech or Debate Clause.” Id. Under
that analysis, a Member’s “communications with individuals outside of Congress may qualify for
the privilege” — even absent formal authorization for the Member to undertake an investigation
— as long as they are legislative acts under Gravel. Id. The Circuit thus instructed this Court to
As to category 2, the Circuit agreed with some of Judge Howell’s determinations but
disagreed with her conclusion that “discussions with other Members about alleged fraud in the
2020 presidential election were non-legislative.” Id. at 372. In light of “the context of these
conversations, which involved Member deliberations about upcoming votes,” among other
things, the Court of Appeals held that “Representative Perry’s conversations with other Members
concern[ing] the passage of proposed legislation as well as the exercise of the constitutional duty
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to certify the electoral votes from the 2020 election” were privileged. Id. at 372–73. It,
communication basis.” Id. at 373. Although this Court has no doubt that Judge Howell
reviewed all of the communications individually, it must now, armed with the guidance provided
II. Analysis
The Court begins with a brief overview of the Speech or Debate Clause’s legal
framework and then explains how that framework applies to the contested records.
A. Legal Framework
The Clause serves dual linked purposes. First, it “reinforc[es] the separation of powers so
deliberately established by the Founders.” United States v. Johnson, 383 U.S. 169, 178 (1966).
Second and more specifically, it preserves legislative independence. That is, it ensures that
Congress may “independently” perform the “legislative function the Constitution allocates to” it.
Eastland v. U. S. Servicemen’s Fund, 421 U.S. 491, 502 (1975) (collecting cases). The Supreme
Court has “[w]ithout exception . . . read the Speech or Debate Clause broadly to effectuate
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To serve those aims, the high court has long construed the Clause to protect more than
just a Member’s speech in legislative session. See, e.g., Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168,
204 (1880) (recognizing Clause applies beyond “words spoken in debate” to things like “written
reports,” “resolutions,” “voting,” and other “things generally done in a session of the House by
one of its members in relation to the business before it”). It has read the Clause broadly to
protect all “legislative acts” that a Member might perform. Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625; see also
United States v. Brewster, 408 U.S. 501, 512–13 (1972). As discussed above, the Court clarified
in Gravel:
Where it applies, the Clause provides “three distinct protections.” Howard v. Off. of
Chief Admin. Officer of U.S. House of Representatives, 720 F.3d 939, 946 (D.C. Cir. 2013).
First, it grants Members civil and criminal immunity for their legislative acts. Eastland, 421 U.S.
evidence against a Member. United States v. Helstoski, 442 U.S. 477, 487 (1979). Third, it
creates a testimonial privilege guaranteeing that Members “may not be made to answer”
questions about their legislative acts. Gravel, 408 U.S. at 616. In this Circuit, and most relevant
here, this testimonial privilege also includes a broader non-disclosure privilege that prevents the
Executive from reviewing privileged materials — here, communications via cell phone —
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without the Member’s consent. Rayburn, 497 F.3d at 663; see In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th at
The Court now turns to the task at hand: applying Gravel on a communication-by-
communication basis to the 2,055 records still at issue — i.e., all of the records in categories 1
and 3, as well as those records in category 2 that Judge Howell ordered to be disclosed.
Consistent with the Circuit’s instructions, this Court has conducted an in camera review of each
communication and has analyzed whether it constitutes a “legislative act” under Gravel. To
facilitate its analysis, the Court has sorted the records into 31 subcategories that it has identified
within the three larger categories that Judge Howell and the Circuit utilized. The analysis that
The records in category 1 can be divided into nine subcategories, all of which cover
communications with individuals outside the federal government: (a) communications seeking
and/or acquiring information regarding alleged election fraud during the period before
Congress’s vote certifying the electoral votes and before its vote on H.R. 1, which was proposed
legislation to alter election procedures; (b) communications seeking and/or acquiring information
communications seeking to influence the conduct of individuals outside the federal government
or otherwise providing information to such individuals regarding alleged election fraud; (d)
discussions about non-legislative efforts to combat alleged election fraud; (e) discussions about
regarding the procedures that Vice President Pence must follow under the Electoral Count Act;
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(g) communications regarding what had occurred during the insurrection at the Capitol on
January 6, 2021; (h) communications seeking and/or acquiring information regarding the spread
communications.
Of those groups of records, only subcategories (a) and (b) are protected by the Speech or
legislation” or “other matters which the Constitution places within the jurisdiction of either
House.” Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625; see In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th at 372 n.13 (noting that
Congress’s vote certifying the electoral votes was a “matter[] which the Constitution places
within the jurisdiction of [the] House,” and discussion regarding H.R. 1 constituted
“consideration . . . of proposed legislation”) (quoting Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625). They are,
Subcategories (c)–(i), however, comprise records that are “too far removed from
legislative proceedings” to qualify for the Speech or Debate privilege. In re Sealed Case, 80
F.4th at 372. Records in subcategories (c), (d), and (e) have no “relationship to the legislative
and deliberative process,” let alone an “integral” or “essential” one. Hutchinson v. Proxmire,
443 U.S. 111, 130–31 (1979) (holding privilege inapplicable to communications that “have a
relationship to the legislative and deliberative process” but were not “essential to the
deliberations of [Congress]” nor “part of the deliberative process”) (emphasis added). While
records in subcategory (f) may bear a relationship to legislative proceedings insofar as they touch
on the certification vote, they are neither “integral” nor “essential” to Perry’s participation in
those proceedings because they pertain only to Vice President Pence’s role. Gravel, 408 U.S. at
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625; see Brewster, 408 U.S. at 515 (the Clause does not “protect[] all conduct relating to the
subcategories of categories 2 and 3 — relate to efforts in the Pennsylvania state legislature, the
Court nonetheless titles them “non-legislative” because they do not concern efforts in the U.S.
Congress.) As to subcategories (g) and (h), the mere possibility that Congress could one day
Perry’s communications with individuals outside the federal government about those topics —
which were “not legislative in nature” — privileged under Gravel. See In re Sealed Case, 80
F.4th at 365 (citation omitted). Subcategory (i), lastly, covers non-substantive communications
that have no relationship to the legislative process and thus are similarly not protected.
Congress and with congressional staff run the gamut in terms of topics, the Court is constrained
to sort them into no fewer than fourteen subcategories: (a) substantive electronic newsletters and
press releases concerning legislative proceedings or matters integral to those proceedings; (b)
discussions about alleged election fraud, whether to certify the electoral votes, and how to assess
information relevant to legislation about federal election procedures during the period before
Congress’s vote certifying the electoral votes and before its vote on H.R. 1; (c) communications
communications about House Freedom Caucus affairs; (e) communications about happenings on
the House floor, House policies, and other House business; (f) non-substantive electronic
newsletters and press releases concerning topics outside the legislative sphere; (g) discussions
about efforts to work with members of the Executive Branch and state legislators to combat
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alleged election fraud; (h) communications related to efforts to influence the conduct of members
of the Executive Branch and state legislators; (i) preparatory discussions regarding election-
fraud-related press releases and letters; (j) discussions regarding election-related litigation efforts
and amicus briefs and other non-legislative efforts to combat alleged election fraud; (k)
discussions about congressional campaigns and results; (l) discussions about Perry’s press
coverage and media strategy; (m) discussions regarding the spread of COVID-19, COVID-19
Subcategories (a)–(e) are privileged. While not all electronic newsletters or press
releases sent by or to Members warrant the Speech or Debate privilege, subcategory (a) consists
of only those that “concern[ed] legislative proceedings or matters integral to those proceedings”
and thus do. Id. at 372. As to subcategories (b), (c), and (d), the Circuit’s opinion made clear
that “a Member’s deliberation about whether to certify a presidential election or how to assess
information relevant to legislation about federal election procedures” and “communications with
Members and staff about legislation, votes, committee assignments, and caucus affairs” are
legislative acts protected by Gravel. Id. at 371–72. Subcategory (e) comprises Member and staff
discussions that “occur in the regular course of the legislative process” and are therefore also
covers only those electronic newsletters and press releases that — unlike those in subcategory (a)
— “focused on topics outside the ‘legislative sphere’” and are thus “too far removed from
legislative proceedings to warrant privilege under the Clause.” In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th at
372. Subcategories (g) and (h) consist of communications about non-legislative efforts to work
with or influence members of the Executive Branch or state legislators, which — just like
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“attempts to influence the conduct of executive agencies,” Hutchinson, 443 U.S. at 121 n.10, or
to “cajole[] and exhort” members of the Executive Branch “with respect to the administration of
a federal statute,” Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625 — are not privileged legislative acts. Neither are the
records in subcategories (i), (j), or (k), which pertain to press releases and letters to be sent to
audiences outside of Congress, briefs to be filed in courts, and congressional campaigns and
results, respectively. Even if discussing those topics is a “legitimate action[] within the duties of
[Members’] office[s],” such discussions do not “trigger[] the privilege” of the Speech or Debate
Clause. In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th at 364; cf. Hutchinson, 443 U.S. at 130–33. The same is true
for the records in subcategory (l), which the Circuit held are “not privileged.” In re Sealed Case,
80 F.4th at 372. And it is quite clearly true for subcategories (m) and (n), both of which contain
legislative events occurring in and around Congress” are not privileged) (cleaned up).
Executive Branch, can be organized into eight subcategories: (a) communications seeking and/or
acquiring information regarding alleged election fraud during the period before Congress’s vote
certifying the electoral votes and before its vote on H.R. 1; (b) communications seeking and/or
congressional action; (c) communications seeking to influence the conduct of members of the
election fraud; (d) discussions about non-legislative efforts to combat alleged election fraud; (e)
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(f) discussions about non-legislative efforts regarding non-election-related policy issues; (g)
communications regarding the procedures that Vice President Pence must follow under the
The Speech or Debate Clause covers subcategories (a) and (b). Those are analogous to
subcategories (a) and (b) within category 1, and the analysis is the same even though the source
of information is different. In other words, communications in subcategories (a) and (b) were
rejection of proposed legislation” or “other matters which the Constitution places within the
jurisdiction of either House.” Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625. That makes them textbook “legislative
(d), (e), and (f) comprise communications about non-legislative efforts to work with or influence
members of the Executive Branch. Even if such activities are “in a day’s work for a Member of
Congress,” the Speech or Debate Clause “does not protect acts that are not legislative in nature.”
In re Sealed Case, 80 F.4th at 364–65; see Section II.B.2, supra. The records in subcategory (g),
much like those in subcategory (f) within category 1, are neither “integral” nor “essential” to
Perry’s participation in legislative proceedings because they concern only Vice President Pence’s
role. Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625; see Section II.B.1, supra. Finally, the same is true for subcategory
(h), which is analogous to subcategory (i) within category 1 and subcategory (n) within category
III. Conclusion
For the foregoing reasons, the Court will grant in part and deny in part Representative
Perry’s Motion for Nondisclosure. Perry must disclose to the government 1,659 of the 2,055
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records still at issue. He may withhold the other 396 under the Speech or Debate Clause. A
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