🇨🇳 977th fly-in: Beijing Nanyuan Airport, China (ZBNY)

[Kumiankka]

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Since next Sunday, October 1st happens to be National Day over in the People's Republic of China, let's head east once more and try to wrap our heads around those unique metric flight levels they use there. Our destination is an interesting bit of aviation history with a legacy stretching back over a century: Beijing Nanyuan Airport (ZBNY) was the first airport in China, and closed down only as recently as 2019, at the same time as the featured Star Atlas freeware custom scenery was released to celebrate the airport's long heritage. I've also linked scenery for Beijing's two other major airports Daxing (ZBAD) and Beijing Capital (ZBAA), and there even seems to be a private airfield called Bei'An River (ZBBA) nearby, although I can't find much information about it in English... and I'm not exactly fluent in Chinese!

Steady winds / 一路順風

 

 

 

New pilots are always welcome, just read the guide on how to get started!

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[rajo]

Next Sunday I skip, I camp over a long weekend in the mountains. But could not resist submitting. Unfortunately, however, only ZBAA is available in FSE. There I landed, although I could also have landed in ZBNY, FSE just takes the nearest airport.

All flights for pilot rajo

Date	From	To	Aircraft	Type	Duration	Distance	Earnings	Action
2023/09/27 02:05:58	RJBB	ZBAA	7T-AUW	Boeing 727-100/200	03:09	952	$7,224.30	View

have fun!

[Quintao]

Great location and awesome sceneries chosen by @Kumiankka!

I started out of Seoul Incheon, RKSI, the recent location for a fly-in aboard the Embraer Phenom 300, E55P. Tweaked the clock so that it wasn't pitch dark on that side of the world.

 

The lights while taxing to RWY 33 looked beautiful on the latest update of X-Plane 12.

 

 

Took off RWY 33 at Incheon.

 

It was a 90-minute flight over the Yellow Sea and I followed the approach DUM11A for Beijing, which flew right by ZBAD.

 

Given that ZBNY, the fly-in destination has been deactivated, I flew a visual approach into RWY 36.

 

 

Very detailed scenery at Nan Yuan, ZBNY.

Parked alongside @ghun1 and @Vega66 while Kumi was taking off RWY 36. 

 

Noticed the very detailed liveries on the static aircraft.

 

 

Went for a break and on my return, @CHASMAN2014 had landed and was also showcasing a nice livery for Air China.

 

Took a group photo around this time.

I decided to go airport hopping, taking off ZBNY RWY 18 inbound for ZBAD RWY 19R (which was a straight flight).

 

On my short flight to ZBAD, flew past @F5Chaser and @MerlinEng, both inbound for ZBNY RWY 36.

 

 

Landed on ZBAD - Daxing,  RWY 19R, terminal picture, and took off again this time to ZBAA Beijing Capital.

 

 

 

All of the airports today were superb freeware models, below a picture of Beijing Capital while on the pattern.

 

Landed on RWY 19 and took a picture with @ostkamp on his Fedex livery.

 

Last picture of the day was Kumi performing a ZBAA RWY 19 fly-by, modeled as a B748.

 

See you all next week!

 

[ostkamp]

Hi fellow pilots,

I tried hard to find a suitable flight in FS-Economy since there are only a small number of airports covered at all for China, and there were nearly no suitable aircraft available for short routes (I need at least a comparable model).

So this time I did something new and did not rent an aircraft, buy the fuel myself and assign passenger offers, but I took an offer to hire me as a pilot for a flight. In this case the payment for services of pilot is fixed, there are no extra expenses for aircraft and fuel and the aircraft is also already assigned. This btw. seems also the only method to fly the big iron. In my case there was an offer to fly cargo from Tokyo Haneda to Beijing Capital airport.

All flights for pilot ostkamp
Date                From To     Aircraft Type               Duration Distance Earnings
2023/10/01 14:20:25 RJTT ZBAA    N-6575O Boeing 727-100/200 04:53    1131     $8,590.50

Since I haven't got a B727-200 in the hanger, I used the Flightfactor B757-200 as a replacement.

The impact on framerate of this special model seemed too high to me with XP12, so I used it in XP11 this time.

Taking off from RJTT after spending an hour or so with desperate attempts to get the IRS aligned and the FMC programmed. The FMC data is so much outdated, that a real planning was not possible anymore, I just took in a few VORs that are not going to change so often, and finally a direct ILS approach for runway 19 at Beijing.

The flight took a very long time (nearly 5 hours real time, and due to the complex flight model / scenery I could not really speed up with time warp except over the sea).
Here passing over Seoul Incheon airport.

I had loaded about 8500 kg of simulated cargo for FedEx. Yes, the model is not really a cargo one.

On approach to Beijing Capital runway 19.

Got setup ok and turned on all 3 autopilots for autoland which worked out really well.

Got an acceptable landing.

After I got parked @Quintao landed. I was already so late that only a small number of participants was left.

Since I was flying XP11, I loaded one of my previous favorites the Aerobask Eclipse 550 NG which is unfortunately not available for XP12.

Leaving Beijing Capital for Beijing Nanuan airport.

On final.

Landing was ok, but the aircraft drifted off to the right after touchdown.

Got parked next to @Kumiankka who just went off for a break.

Soon I prepared for next flight to Beijing Daxing International nearby.

On final to Daxing.

That airport was again a very large one.

I got briefly parked next to the tower.

Meanwhile @Kumiankka had returned and prepared a Cessna single prop for a flight to the last airport Beijing Haidan. I hurried and switched aircraft to Aerobask Pipistrel Panthera (again only available in XP11 for now).

With full power I was able to speed up and meet with @Kumiankka, @Vega66 also joined later.

The airport was hard to find in the woods and had only a very short runway.

Surrounded by trees from all sides.

I landed with minimum speed and full flaps extended at about 65 kias.

Was able to stabilize the aircraft after touchdown then applied maximum braking.

Got to stop near the end of the runway, hard landing but no injuries. 😀

Got parked next to @Kumiankka.

Next @Vega66 landed as well in another kind of Cessna, IIRC. He got it stopped already at half of the runway. 👍

Final group shot.

Final overview, here one can see how shocking short the runway is. 😬

There I called it a day. See you next time! 🙂

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by ostkamp

[rajo]

So for me the Aerobask Eclipse 550 runs in XP12, see screenshot

[CHASMAN2014]

 

Greeting pilots.

Started from Xilinhot China (ZBXH)  in the Air China B738:

On my first attempt into Beijing Nanyuan Airport I crashed due to a sudden stall. I drop my air speed to 170 knots and forgot to add flaps. My second attempt was better. Below on long final to rwy 36 Beijing Nanyuan:

Short final to rwy 36 @Kumiankka close behind was my guardian angel:

Came in hot as I had fear of stalling had to use the whole runway:

Parked next to @F5Chaser, as @MerlinEng was taxing to parking:

@Quintao had already landed and was on coffee break:

@ghun1 in the China United livery has parked at the gate:

@Vega66 heli parked at the gate:

@Kumiankka tower view not sure which airport:

Loading passengers for my next flight:

Have a nice week everyone.

Chas

[Kumiankka]

A lot of flying for one evening once again...

 

Started from Shanghai Pudong in the ToLiss A319, just behind @ghun1. The livery is that of the PLAAF's 34th Transport Aviation Division, whose VIP transports were often based at Nanyuan before its closure.

 

Departing Shanghai and climbing to flight level 11000m (36100ft)

 

Arriving in Beijing after just enough time for the usual in-flight coffee break, and passing Daxing Airport on the way in

 

Like others already mentioned, charts weren't exactly easy to come by for this already closed down location, so I went for a visual circuit instead of trying to set up an ILS approach. The timing worked out great, I got to watch @ghun1 land just as I was turning downwind here.

 

Once it was my turn to land at Nanyuan, @Vega66 showed up to take a closer look in a helo

 

Parked alongside some other transports in similar livery. The attention to detail in the scenery is amazing, I believe those are all other actual planes operated by the 34th right down to the correct tail numbers!

 

Since the Airbus's sidestick setup was similar to a fighter jet's, requiring very little control reconfiguration, I decided to switch to the fighter jets at this point, starting with the MiG-21.

 

 

Met up with @CHASMAN2014 on his way in and formed up alongside to watch his landing

 

Next I headed for a nearby airbase of Xijiao.

 

That landing may have been a bit too close for comfort... got to watch the glideslope next time!

 

Next up was the Chengdu J-10. Interesting design but the X-Plane model is aerodynamically a bit questionable, barely making it off the ground here despite a long runway.

 

Dropped some fireworks over Nanyuan Airport

 

Trying to land the J-10 was the biggest challenge of the evening for me. Even with full flaps the stall speed was around 230 knots, in fact I doubt there was even any difference to the clean configuration!

 

Slammed the J-10 down on the numbers...

 

...and then applied full braking using every trick in the book: wheel brakes, speedbrakes, full downward elevator and of course the brake chute. Even with this combination I was barely able to stop before the end of the runway.

 

Next, I took off in the Beriev A-50 radar plane for a quick return flight to Nanyuan. Something interesting was going on with the scenery at Xijiao, if you look closely you can see airport service vehicles driving offroad.

 

Since @ostkamp and @Quintao had landed at Beijing Capital I first headed there for a quick flyby.

 

Returning to Nanyuan

 

his E

@ostkamp came back to ZBNY as well, his Eclipse rendered here as an An-28

 

 

Switched to the XP11 default C172 for an expedition to the small airfield of Beijing Haidian.

 

Finding the small airfield near the mountains was a bit tricky, since it wasn't listed on most maps or charts, and wasn't being shown by the GPS unit either. @ostkamp had decided to tag along and passed me on the way, and @Vega66 was inbound as well.

 

Eventually we found the tiny field hidden between the mountains. Circling to land here, so as not to lose sight of the field again.

 

No matter which direction you picked, there were trees in the way to mess with your approach. And the runway was pretty short too, even for a Cessna. As a result, both me and @ostkamp used up basically all the runway. On the other hand @Vega66 pulled off an amazing landing in his C337, stopping around the halfway point.

 

Lined up outside the hangar next to Vega and ostkamp

 

@ostkamp had to go, but @Vega66 and I still had time for a return flight. We both switched to DC-3s but Vega got hit by the same nose-over glitch as last week.

 

Further control issues sent Vega into the woods on his first takeoff attempt.

 

My own takeoff was a bit precarious too... those treetops were awfully close!

 

Swung by for another look hoping to join up with Vega as he took off... but instead got to watch Vega slide off the runway a second time. Luckily third time was the charm for Vega, and we were able to head back for Nanyuan after all.

 

A low flyby of Xijiao on the way back

 

Some generic highrises in Beijing

 

Landing on rwy 36 again

 

The grass at the airport was quite overgrown, you can't even see the taxiway I'm on from this angle! @Vega66 had caught up on the way and landed only moments after me.

 

Parked outside the main terminal building, saying farewell to Vega who had to call it a night here.

 

I still had time for one more short hop to Dalian Zhoushuizi Airport, although starting up the systems of the Rotate MD-80 took a little longer than I had planned.

 

Eventually I got everything sorted out and was ready to taxi.

 

Taking off and leaving Nanyuan behind

 

On the way to Dalian above the Bohai Sea

 

Touching down at ZYTL, my final landing for the evening

 

See you next time, and have a great week!

[ostkamp]

Just now, rajo said:

So for me the Aerobask Eclipse 550 runs in XP12, see screenshot

@rajo I wonder how you got that far in XP12, since the official statement from Aerobask ( @harranssor and @Lionel) is that it does not work and will never work on XP12. AFAIK the reason is that it uses SASL v2 which is incompatible to XP12 and compatibility updates for SASL v2 are not expected anymore.

Given that statement I did not try to install it on XP12 myself since that would reduce my activation counter.

See below and the other thread linked in that.

Did you just load the aircraft or also perform some flight successfully?

Edited October 2, 2023 by ostkamp

[Vega66]

My Fly In started saturday, performing an Intercontinental Flight from Anchorage to Beijing Capital, with the A350 from Flight Factor dressed on a retro China Airlines livery. 

Slowly taxied to departure runway, enjoying the evening light.


Waiting for take off clearance

Circling Anchorage after take off, taking an Westbound route over the Pacific.

The flight normally would take about 9 hours, but due to a late start I had to speed up the time in order to arrive in a manageable window. 


Arriving at Beijing.Capital




Taxied and parked for the night.

 

Sunday morning picked up the default S-76 in a nice China Southern livery, to perform the airports tour.


Departing from Beijing Capital

 

First destination: the small Beijing Haidian



Next, a stop at the huge Beijing Daxing.



The final stop was our main destination, at Beijing NanYuan, but still had time to perform a scenic tour over Bejing.






Finally reached NanYuan, precisely when the first pilots were arriving. @ghun1 was the first to touch down, parking in front of the main terminal.


@Kumiankka landed next.


There was enough space for me to land, just before the next arrival.


Taxied to the main terminal, passing Kumi, and parked next to Gary's 737.




@Quintao arriving.



And for me it was just time to go for a break, after which proceeded in a fighter mode, trying Gary's Mirage 2000 in a China Airforce livery.


Passing Kumi on a nice 747.


The aircraft performs very well, working flawlessly in XP12.


Inverted fly over Daxing


And a regular pass.


A few more stunts around the city.


@ostkamp and Kumi had left YanNuyan in a couple of SkyHawks, to visit Haidian, so I expedited the landing at Daxing and changed to a Skymaster in order to join them.

 

Circled around a couple of times, allowing for them to land and studying the tight approach. That eventually was rewarded with the best landing of the day. Next, parked for a group photo.


Kumi was planning to try a DC3 departure on this tiny strip and I also joined him, on a Chinese Air Force Skytrain.


The first attempt didn't go well, as I failed to catch enough speed and crashed on the woods after an unrecoverable stall. Kumi managed to lift of at the first attempt.


Tried another configuration for the second attempt accelerating the engines before releasing the brakes. That was not a good idea, as the DC3 ditched the nose even before starting the roll. Finally, at the third attempt managed to take off just over the stall limit, taking speed and enough altitude to reach for NanYuan.


Parked next to Kumi for the final take, just before call it a day.


Another Fly In with lots of fun. Thank you all.

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Vega66

[rajo]

9 hours ago, ostkamp said:

@rajo I wonder how you got that far in XP12, since the official statement from Aerobask ( @harranssor and @Lionel) is that it does not work and will never work on XP12. AFAIK the reason is that it uses SASL v2 which is incompatible to XP12 and compatibility updates for SASL v2 are not expected anymore.

Given that statement I did not try to install it on XP12 myself since that would reduce my activation counter.

See below and the other thread linked in that.

Did you just load the aircraft or also perform some flight successfully?

flies good. There are some glitches, red alert with engine overload, but doesn't disturb

[ostkamp]

Just now, rajo said:

das update war inbegriffen

@rajo Your Download Page screenshot is about the Phenom 300, but not the Eclipse 550 NG I was talking of.

And yes, I enjoy the Phenom in XP12 as well, just wish there would be a way for the Eclipse and Pipistrel Panthera as well.

Edited October 3, 2023 by ostkamp

[rajo]

4 hours ago, ostkamp said:

@rajo Your Download Page screenshot is about  the Phenom 300, but not the Eclipse 550 NG I was talking of.

And yes, I enjoy the Phenom in XP12 as well, just wish there would be a way for the Eclipse and Pipistrel Panthera as well.

that was a mistake, I deleted the screenshot not quick enough

Hours later: just completed a flight with the Aerobask EA50

Engine performance is consistently too weak

after I was too long in the red zone, the right engine burned

after error reset I could start the engine again and land at the destination

as a result, the FSE acars was canceled, but not the ZONexecutive acars

happy landings!

Edited October 3, 2023 by rajo

[F5Chaser]

Hello all!

I started my flight at Penglai airport (ZYST) west of the city of Yantai. I decided to stick with the B737 for this week.

The flight was relatively smooth and weather was great the whole way. These new cirrus cloud formations in 12.07 look really nice. I set my course for Daxing to join the improvised visual approach for runway 36. Good thing the weather was clear this week or Daxing might have ended up the alternate destination for me.

I forgot my microphone was muted during most of the descent and approach so my arrival may have been a little bit of a surprise unless you were watching the map. @Quintao departed Nanyuan and met me in the middle on his way to Daxing. The landing this time was good, although could have been earlier on the runway.

I taxied up to where @CHASMAN2014 parked, followed closely by @MerlinEng who landed a few minutes later.

Thank for the flight everyone! See you in Canada!