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I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...
I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.

thanks so much Jeff!

While I am checking other tests you instructed, I attached the logging here for your help!




Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:50 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.

Also I use Spectrum MIB tool on this device and get the following screenshot, they have both 0 and large values(1000 or 1000000000) in the tables:







Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:50 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.

It does appear we are reading 1000000000 and 1000 for the ifSpeed/ifHighSpeed like you see in the MIBtools for ge-0/0/9.0.

Can you grab http://DA:8581/rest/ports/2061266  and see if SpeedInOverride or SpeedOutOverride is set?  And what SpeedIn and SpeedOut are set to?

On PC in mysql, can you run this to see what speeds are synced to PC:

  select sourceid,itemname,IfSpeedIn,IfSpeedOut from netqosportal.dst_interface where itemid in (select itemid from netqosportal.dst_interface where localid='2061266');
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 10:54 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Also I use Spectrum MIB tool on this device and get the following screenshot, they have both 0 and large values(1000 or 1000000000) in the tables:

Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:50 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.

I grab the following for localid 2061266 and 2061170(they have same MAC address which I marked as xxxxxxxx), For mysql, did you mean login to NetOps DA server and run SQL query from Linux command line? I have never tried that before, does it need special account to access MySql, which I might have to request that privilege from others.


Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 11:07 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

It does appear we are reading 1000000000 and 1000 for the ifSpeed/ifHighSpeed like you see in the MIBtools for ge-0/0/9.0.

Can you grab http://DA:8581/rest/ports/2061266  and see if SpeedInOverride or SpeedOutOverride is set?  And what SpeedIn and SpeedOut are set to?

On PC in mysql, can you run this to see what speeds are synced to PC:

  select sourceid,itemname,IfSpeedIn,IfSpeedOut from netqosportal.dst_interface where itemid in (select itemid from netqosportal.dst_interface where localid='2061266');
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 10:54 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Also I use Spectrum MIB tool on this device and get the following screenshot, they have both 0 and large values(1000 or 1000000000) in the tables:

Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:50 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.

yeh, as you can see, SpeedIn/Out reflect the values read from the device.  But someone has overridden speedin/out.

You need to use the PC UI or DA admin for Polled Metric Families->Interface, find the interface and choose to override the speeds.  if you set them back to the SpeedIn/Out values, it should set override to blank, I believe.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 11:27 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I grab the following for localid 2061266 and 2061170(they have same MAC address which I marked as xxxxxxxx), For mysql, did you mean login to NetOps DA server and run SQL query from Linux command line? I have never tried that before, does it need special account to access MySql, which I might have to request that privilege from others.

<Port version="1.0.0">

<ID>2061266</ID>

<MACAddress>xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</MACAddress>

<SpeedIn>1.0E9</SpeedIn>

<AdminStatus>1</AdminStatus>

<SpeedOut>1.0E9</SpeedOut>

<SpeedOutOverride>2.0E7</SpeedOutOverride>

<SpeedInOverride>2.0E7</SpeedInOverride>

<Type>53</Type>

<OperStatus>1</OperStatus>

<Port version="1.0.0">

<ID>2061170</ID>

<MACAddress>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</MACAddress>

<SpeedIn>1.0E9</SpeedIn>

<AdminStatus>1</AdminStatus>

<SpeedOut>1.0E9</SpeedOut>

<SpeedOutOverride>2.0E7</SpeedOutOverride>

<SpeedInOverride>2.0E7</SpeedInOverride>

<Type>6</Type>

<OperStatus>1</OperStatus>

Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 11:07 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

It does appear we are reading 1000000000 and 1000 for the ifSpeed/ifHighSpeed like you see in the MIBtools for ge-0/0/9.0.

Can you grab http://DA:8581/rest/ports/2061266  and see if SpeedInOverride or SpeedOutOverride is set?  And what SpeedIn and SpeedOut are set to?

On PC in mysql, can you run this to see what speeds are synced to PC:

  select sourceid,itemname,IfSpeedIn,IfSpeedOut from netqosportal.dst_interface where itemid in (select itemid from netqosportal.dst_interface where localid='2061266');
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 10:54 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Also I use Spectrum MIB tool on this device and get the following screenshot, they have both 0 and large values(1000 or 1000000000) in the tables:

Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:50 AM
From: JEFFREY PINARD
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

Most likely your device is supporting the Juniper High Speed interface vendor cert...  Is that true?

We use the IfXTable ifHighSpeed or IfTable ifSpeed to determine interface speed.    If the ifHighSpeed is set and > 20, we use it, and multiply by 100000 to get bps.
If ifHighSpeed is not defined for the interface or < 20, we use ifSpeed value which is in bps already.

That value is used for both In and Out speeds.  The IF tables don't have an In and Out OID we an use to differentiate.
Utilization uses this speed value in it's calculations.  So if the SNMP agent is reporting the wrong speed, it can effect many diff expressions we calculate.

We do provide the option to override In and Out values separately, in case the device is reporting the wrong speeds.  Can be done via DA rest, the PC UI, or DA admin UI.

Based on the images, it appears SNMP may not be giving us a IfXTable ifHighSpeed value for the interface, or maybe it's returning 20.

Can you use http://DA:8581/dcdebug and gather the polling config and discovery logging for the device IP?  We can see what the device is returning for ifHighSpeed and ifSpeed for that interface.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-18-2020 09:36 AM
From: Tao Yang
Subject: How interfaces speeds are decided for NetOps (PC CA)

I have a question regarding Juniper device interface speeds. I found some of the interface have 200-400% utilization, going to the interface page and found their speed are setting as 1.5MB, 10MB, 20MB, 1GB ect...

I found out most of these interfaces are either virtual port(VLAN) or a ohysical interface with sub-IF(also consider as virtual for Juniper?)
So I login to a Juniper device and check the interface spec, Ii picked interface ge-0/0/9 and it's sub-IF ge-0/0/9.0:

and it is showing as 20MB(both In and Out) on NetOps:

I guess the speed on NetOps decides the utilization percentage on the graph(that's why it could have 400% utilization percentage), but it is not the true speed for the interface and it's sub-IF. I guess the same reason applied to those VLAN interfaces.