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Report of Proceedings 

Hearing held before 

COMMITTEE ON INTERSTATE AND FOREICW COMMERCE 

H .R, 2248 

TO AMEND THE FEDERAL FOOD, DRUG, AND COSMETIC ACT 

SO AS TO MAKE THAT ACT APPLICABIF TO SMOKING PRODUCTS 

H .R . 3014, H .R . 4007, H .R . 7051, H,R, 4244 

TO REGULATE THE LABELING AND ADVERTISING 

OF CIGARETTES, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES 

Friday, April 9, 1965 

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WARD, SMITH, PAUL & AL1)ER80N 

Gehim'aA StrnoOgpe Reportinq 

917 G Strcat. N.14C 306 Ninth Stroat, N . W ., 

Washington, D . C . I20001 Washington, D . C . 20004 

628-4406 638-5032 

028-02t7 - 028-840J 

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CANCER CONTROL PROORAM 

DIVISION OF CHRONIC DISEASES 

U . S . PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE 

Aeaedlel Action StetementE : ; 

Part of a Natlonel Btudy on SmokSng Bchavior and Attitudes 

Daniel Horn and Selvyn Waingrow 

March 2?, ;965 

In October 1964, a notione .l probability study of smoking behavior, 

attitudes, and beliefs was conducted under Publie Health Service direction 

among adults, 21 and over, Sn about 3,500 households randoml,v selected in 

an interpenetrating sample design wlthin 106 prlmary ssmpling units from 

which were drawn 424 segments . 

The Snterview itself lasted from about one hour to an hour and a half~ 

depending upon the person's smoking history , and lncluded among the qucstions 

an agree-disagree series of 23 statements which the Investigators have labeled 

the "remedlal action statcments" since they deal with either general or 

specific ections vhlch might possibly be taken in the contro l of cigarette 

smoking . 

These statements were culled from books , magazine articles , newspaper 

editorials , articles , or letters to the editor after the Report to the 

Surgeon Ceneral vas released on January 11 , 1964 and , while most of their 

orlglnal tone and intent was generally malntained , they were usually para- 

phrased in order to better fit within the context of an interview situation . 

As part of the research design, the statements verepresented differently 

Sn the four forue used by the intervievers , vith the selection of the form 

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Horn and Waingrow Hemedial Action Statercents Mnrch 22 , 1965 

to be used being predetermined on a randov.ly selected basls so that each 

respondent theoreticslly had an equal chnnce of being given any one particular 

form . 

The differences and e .inilarltlee between the four forms -- A~ B, C . and 

D -- are as follovn : 

Nordi n - Some of the statements were worded exactly alike on all 

four forms , but other statements were presented conversely in one of the 

forms (D) . For example , if Ftorms A, A, and C contained the positive version 

of a statement , then on Form D the converse of that statement ws presented , 

that is , e a negatively worded version . The percentages agreeing or disagreeing 

in response to the version given on most forms (A , B , and C) are provided in 

Col` 2~ Sotal p Forms A~B 1 C of the attached table , while the percentages for 

the converse statement are presented in Co1 . 3. Form D , Converse . 

' Hocever) the assumed effect of differences In vording is best 

estdumted , for reasons explained below , by comparing percentages in Col, 3~ 

Form 1) with those In Col . 4 , Form C . 

The differences In the percentages between these two forms 

are listed In Col_7 . C-D , Sording . 

Positlon qucetlen Number e'Sthin Intervlev ScheBule - The state- 

ments were presented early In the Intervlew .situati .on In Forms C and D, but 

late 1 .n Forms A and B ., Although in terms of their position within the inter- 

view schedule Form C and D are equal as are F'orms A and B, the best estimate 

of the assumed effect of position upon answers Ss achieved by romparing the 

percentages In Col . 4, Fonn C with those in Col . 6, Form A. ' 

The differences in the percentages between these two forms 

are listed In Col- . 0. . A-0, Positio,n . 


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Order Within This Particular gcrics - The statements were presented 

in the Identical order on F'onos A , Cr and D but were reversed on Form B , with 

the last , fYrst , and the first, last , and so on . Since there were an odd 

number of statements p statement No . 6 in this report (letter-e on the forms) . 

remained 1.n the middle on all four forms . 

For apparent reasons described in the above two sections , the 

assumed effect of the order of presentation within the seri .es of statements 

is best estimated by compsrl.ng the percentages in Co] . F'orm B with those 

in Col . 6 . Form A . 

The differences Sn the percentages between these two forms 

are listed in (:ol . 91 A-D , Order . 

The Percenta ee_-and Differences Between the Percentages - The 

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following is submitted as a general guide to the statistical significance 

of the data presented 

: Since each of' the forms was used In approximately 1r200 

Snterviewsr the standard error of a given percent obtained from any one form 

is in most cases approximately 1-1/ 2 percentage points ; theref'ore , differences 

between percentages obtained from two different forms are probably not 

statistically significant vhen the difference Ss less than 4 percentage points . 

In cases vhere the percentages being compared are less than 20 percent each 

or more than &i percent each, differences of less than 3 percentage points 

are probably not statistically significant . 

AlthouyJi pereentages ere here given in terme : of "agree" or 

"dieagree" : percentages are also available for each statem :nt indicating 

the extent to Miich the position was "strong av" or "mi]dly" held . In addition, 

although not presented here, ecores for each stetement based upon a five-point 

scale .are also availaGle . 


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f.lexibAl3ty woulQ al.]ooi for etnmGes .tn the phrasi .n@; of the taarnln(t 

whlch m9ght re,Ult from renearoh or ter,hn5c .a :r f.lnpiovennntn [:aoh 

stn the development of a 2ena ha•r.ardovs c :lf ;a.rebt,e . At t.ime Shc:rse 

developmonts mtghtt justif'y a reduecd marn :ing or perhaps even Af .s 

ominnAon . 

7.n order toine.Urc the nv,ximum effoeti .venoeb of the vrcrnG.nfi 

label itseJ .f, 1t ;lo Amportant tlutt. ot.hcr afutcmentc on t.he fvelwl(?;o, 

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spoc2f'Sc avthoP 5 ty be inc :l.UOSd to prohSblt vse of ni,ettementrc t]Wt , 

oithc+r negate thc eia,rnin(e or, whi)o not . clsir :ly doing no rnd •nt . 

)east rmt dornone.t rabay faAne, might give the oon o umor the 

rnie :ieadAng 3mprecn9.on ths of ti rAek than othert&, 

We aro a ].ao oonoerncd about the fa,ctt that theac two b511s 

YIouJ.d Porb+-d any rccfU :+relnOnt., inC)uGSne any h%'C reCu .ireiuents, 

for 9ncaur.Aon of a hc:itth InornEl ge An acive r t:t o fng ior cAtSetrotter~ 

that are a .aboi.ed an require;d by the bi7 . :tc., Whether the effcot 

of a :tabe] rlarning can bo ade quate An At se).f, and whether It Ac 

lil

3 

• 

0 

9 

hae s pecS .1' ;ca,11y :1nvC,Led intcreotcd partScc+ to apply for t ;uspensaon, 

mod5f7cat9on, or abrogat3on o .4 Sts ru]c tsii :h respoet to advcrC5u5n,; 

of o5garett,cs before its ef£c :c.t•Avo date aA' c%rcuuvstanooa have 

sufP5c5.cnuly ainr,ngcil . Th7.s oould Sncaudo cwys]cicrat5on of the 

effect of a].a,ne) . wa.aro :ing . VIe Go notbca :leve thatt the pub]S .a hctt) .th 

tvoua@ be lac :U3 e,erved by strfkc4n(S from the hcu'ldr . oP the Cominlno]on 

the Put.hoW ty over adveWs5rtg that Ss asscrCs . 

Onc of the b571,a, H . R . A0t}71, requ :irca a i+taCemcnt of tar 

and n'.toob :ittc aonl .cuts on i ;hc ef( ;aret4.o rztota .;Bc . !tc one Mx: thc : 

use of Car and n .tcot,5ne contentola9,mS, 0;0oG ou na var .fet.,r oP 

IilCaUlireli1611t MhoGS, caused t15yeH1)r@ad COLfVI',16n $n to the f>oBbS .b :l .t: 

hcalthku].nacs of one cigarmtte a : opposcd to emothk Noviever, there now 7 

1 fl 

.: a stondptrQ9zed method of ineasvrfng tar and n9ootinc 

y5.cid mh5ch oui be dup]SCat-ad . f+lLhou[Sh ue cannot dcPS .nS.t.e].y 

prove that u r•edvct.i.on of tar anBd nicot .nc content in aigarctte 

smokc tcS7a sif;ni.fSoanUl.y decrcanc the hoa).th hasard, 7-t S.a n 

rcanoriabl .e eassutnpB7.on that t.his vtoud .d reeW .b . Pherc 10 ev7.dcnce 

that rryrlptonrs uasooSetQOd wiif-h ocsotaan dA&cae,cc are lcss c .ormnon 

7n those who use thu ? .onct-• n5coc7no, loeie:r tar eggaret.8es . )+ut 

R 7s exeecfi5nlb'ly SMportant that the ooneumei, Lc Snforwed that 

liMe such O .il;are8tc6 rlW:l,l' bC .7 .C85 Yk1Yar'(ieV.S, idley arC Ilol. EElfe . 

Dltny srnoKCrs, aE : ) tnrve s¢150, f7ntt 7L dSS'f ;cu)11: to sCop smolcSnp:, 

but the l:ubetE,u6i :,2) ec5t.nh tc, fDt.cr o5.l ;;o•cia.cF 9.nQ :icat.ca they b.ro 

o.re :?ovo t., hrnt+c.tU idioir hoR) .th by mao/c :uni; W'it t .hcy .krol :iove to bc 

0 Me hr.znVcious Won.voY . . P0P t.her..c t;evcral . rsr,eont:, ere fbo)W t.hn.t. 


?n•r 

a btatclaent. cn the (x;o4vr•,oc aC tdrr and n :1c yt3 .he contcnt txte :ed on u 

L•,tanflaz-U9zed dei:cr•r~5 .n(rtAon P,ou7 .dM be uss.fu. . 

IDonevor„ om°pent re :oe:&.r,oh oonncrni .nEr; the va+r5 .ous eomponcmts; 

of c!gar•ettc Sroolce inry oaiJ i'or ohahE9e ;R in the tar ar,d nSOot :ine^ 

ctt,tcmont or 4n0 :1 .eFnte other colaponents that Shou'Sd be _=4stc2on the c5 

.etuvatto Ptaetcc)io . We wouisl recon,mend that :1noLeac7 of a 

r>peoAS'Se r;tectutory rôdu9 .re:ment for a z.tt-r8omant cu to (_urt.7cuJS.r 

oomPorrenta of' eSgaxet.to crmoke:, rc'GUla .tory ;tuthw3 .ty be ProvAdcd to 

cSeo:ido WhSCh PartSCU7ar componontr e.hou).d bo disc].osed on f;ha 

:Labe7 . . 9'hSe flcx9b9J.5Ay of' Ruthar:ity ohoui.6, a7soextond to the 

anU7yt9.ea1 rnothocie to bc uecGand the nanner :n fih :i.ch the :lnforusttior 

is prc:,cntcd to the cormtuncr . Any stet,cmcnt an to cont .ente : s+hou?.d, 

in our• v9 .elu, .be baecd upon a at.andard :ixcQ a¢t.©em?.nat9.on and e.hou :tci 

bC ut9J.9zcd to pr'eeent mcan9.nEful anforirat?orz to the con ::uincr . lIe 

wou7d f•ur[:her nonommnnd that the rot4ulatory aEeney be authora .ecn 

to r•ecSu1.rc the l,a,nufitetvzes)r.r to ProvSdc tho agenoy t/ :i.th cont :a,uSpC 

:1 .nf01'!n'lt :iWl aE~ to thE AR(i)"U[75 .Cnt6~ :rI1G1Ud5)9,E; E+C?61~ciVCb', :q1 

cAp:nrotbc: :: . 

h . F . 307E!c:ud S . It . l:0U% defbnc the t.erm 'c :i .t;areT.te° oe. "any 

x'ol.a of tobe.c:co nr other cub :a;Emoc tivaPPed in taPOr or 9n any r>ub•- 

nLanoe obhc :p t•lron t.otnoc.o, and 9nf.ondcd for cmoka.r,g," 97ic x•ofo'r-onoc 

to "ot.hMcutr,;t.e:ucu" t,cvy Du o. :w)efl ut, pol : ::9b7.c f,ulx,oeo av.l•sS,? .tut'.ec, 

but thorc an c7liaont no Sa'd'o=Kon nr+ to the Posuabic hc0 .th 

IRtza ; - de; :l.n tt6r .: >•et•;trd eaiqk;+'ab1e to tho J e, ;.o,rat,tF .on nba)t . 


in the accnptc0 ec n ue of the Ivor-d .

$ Xastly, I r hovlu aflce to touch brlafa.y on the gu o&4:S.on oS 

1 98 

the agency or afyc:ocice. :in elh:ich Lhse.c fuuct :l.onr shou).d be vcst:ed . 

Yt: Ae oJe:ar,. In vA .ew of r1h10 ] have n?.ready t;aS.Q, that itt rtoul .ct 

over :::1tnp7Sfy the hrsttor, in ou :r oti5r,5on, to crttcmptt to t ;pci. :f out 

the rcqu'Lrcment.es 7-n the stUute 1tse7f and c2aepc=nse alf .otether+ 

erSLh rep,u-l.at.ory adm9n .i .ntstatlon . 4I5 ;;h reg;arct to the aabe7 .5nt; o, 

cAgurett.e: [v.cleahec+, the beliartmcnb hals concluded, on W0wco, th.,.tW 

responsfb ;l7.a.ty uhou7d be vostcci 1n our llo6lir>tmcalt, pr'of ;ero.bay by 

c+ay of eppropris.to amen«ments to the h'ei+.eral }]azar@du :. subs : .unaesd 

labot5ng Aet„ This c+ono?us9on wae rc:achcd aPter conslderat.iou of 

Yhe typo ok regttl.atory aVpa'oEic.h reguirc:d and the ins(iect .i .olt, se7•r.m•e 

and ot3rn :* onf'orocmcand: provA#s :ions rlht .oh Ivould tlx^n bo uutohaC7cn'!]y 

• avai)ab?.c, Sn aC{dS .tSon, the [sta VP and rolcavaht eaper9enoe built 

up 1n the adinfn ;u,trat5on oi the b'cdoru). tkazhrdous SuhrstcuDoeo 

Ia bel9nf; Flc t and the oJdvr 7rood, IArug and Co u metac 4ct S:'urther 

oomnlends this spproaoh . ll9'ie rc(;ulatAon oi c7hatrefite ndvcrti ;ing, 

on the o6her horsd, r.+holU .d, ivo bo l leve, cont9nue to b e left to the 

1'eCroru7 Prab.e Couna9esf .on e . .: :I Yrive a7rcady auctaeated . 

13sq Cha9rl+r :.n, the Yutl,c I1o83 .th 9orv]co han be:on o ;q~dm•1u6• 

the 6+}'obJ.em c,f' clnolc ;ng uhd ho'r,ith for bmue ta .me non, IAe hctvo be(:un, 

9n a very ]9 .mAW r+uy, to arulr,~omc?ntthe rcoommondatdons oY my 

• a.GV? .cory corr,m7t uc' :; regro?°t . P.^c:acnL)y our ect.i .vit,tl .os .are pr :hMFI r+5] .y 

?.11 the Pb :/ ;1(r,9Jli( ; feuP a rp.U: : 

(;1) d5a6omi .n7L :inL' :[rPoi'b/:t$on to prof'C/ :U :i0h:1) and loy (:r'(0.1p1% 

oli the hce;]th Lc.vi+d. ;• o :i o5t;arct,t.e: ne,olclng ; 


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C 

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st 

f7 

Is 

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ili 

St 

kf 

5+ 

599 

(?) c+eterminSni; e£YentSvc ways of hol .pi .ni; t'.hoae: 3.ndiv :lvrErJ, an6 }s1'< :ho]of` :~eg] . £z.oLocl~ 

wh4ch dot•orm]ne r;mdkrlnlt hol:tevtor, Le.'ESe-f'Er al.+outi emoicing, en(1 ~ 

attStuoeu towarciE: smok5r}g, 

Ar, Vou1r,~,Y lcnow, lac,re thsan $5t4(100 copaes oS tho report h .avcl i 

been 0003101,011 . 

?n af•Q9tion, 7 a( sela, ya te 1[ImPhlc.tC on 

var]ov aC:p(m.ts of' tho rGport h?(ve hccr, prcp, .rcd and a ;tsaAVtQ 

! 

$'e (;)'e (Nr rohly E p onKo:Z•Sn . € }~ 

' 

!• sLwki(y w a Bh r",.rruc, ~ : -i. cnn . '1,or; - [i u( 

I 

C&.1 5_corv,Sc+ ana Pennoy?vatiSe . 3" Waonn, wc arC; ass+]nc :v,g a p1'o1icnf• 

d.oWp:ne&tc: (valnate' oh3arlren's re4met3 .ons to a e•nhool eciuoatSOnnJ-I I 

smoKPafe; prog;n,,ni„ He Yx :vc• st.udSoci the sulolcSno; },oYrtUCi]F,P OS' ot .l'loi" 

profe.>;ei ar,a) groni'e . 

I )n )5.,JQ tLr 1'uh}Sc Rcs2tL ::erviao beg:m t.n Rc,ci .gu e; :F(u[co 

~BtL10V Wnlt wOV1G (t+:}iipllC i11 ('(:pt .h t1zC 1)u1/(IV`,oP, Wit .KtiQ6 0nQ 

I 

iiJ() .9@f'R of 1;hC /IL,(•1'9C+On IIhO10P tD1Pft1'C' Ra(F4PPt .t(' FWGkCi11FG `J'hP . 

Ir•oopc, on4 (aunp]rr,p4 ; oS bha fi4.uftp P.e :l.pycE1 Uhc. f:F(J6 uc/lT anb5? 

I]UtC: :I(0! F :.h(i thh. )'rFi AYti )',YPn j1)ft7•R60nt.1Y nUhlE' 6Vil of ( .h(, 

i 

le-0Ul{ .eSoi' . "9,c 4iJ•NO:cO'hNR btt11 l-i,n to (ce-16p ill ciS' .1t5oh q 

;h. thc: D:aSo rarb;; vop.nr; . yA nf : owk .tn t bcm i„r• PLc- r r( b)ct y nr 


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Y ;• 

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Y .: 

o9t;arettc f:motc7ng :iE a r•e]at.Sve)•y un7qve one in the fie].d crf ~ 

pukK.b health, ?t inv() .vca hwrom reretSon to ti rxab•at Sbrmerl.y 

I,a.eceptCtj a : hAr•In).c66, and no'H 6eienti .f'JCU) .].y detePin7 .ned AF• harOP' 

~Ik•ul . 9h .s ch@ngc• fr[n, h,;r•eue :e: to Yrrl>z'ul hav cscaced a avmben cir'~ 

prob)c .rn . . Some pcop)e at•c unut)_linry to aeecpt• tlnt. aruoxu :IrS.on,' 

and. othcrs f3rnd thcircLvo un ble- to do ahy0hin( : about thecr 

srnolCing habifsE dssp :,tc theSy des:irp to do so, ~ 

]n order to ocvo.l.op an cFxcat9ve hea7th }royr-rn to dea7l 

vrCith th:,.C problem, +o E"e?,t Nu ncec7co to hsve z benter underctalid~ 

int, of just reho tho peop7e ax•e who cmoke, why they swoKc, mhe .t 

Lhoi .r LeJS.oPr: about smof.in(; t.;r•e, rohaft smoldnP; Ineun :: to i.hera, 

what the condit :lms ere vnd.er.+ wbion thc :y e1•krn(.eci the,Ar hab5.ts I 

or deride to ehKgo 't•hcn, ethot. Ar9']_uenosd Ms:N st•a,rt•Ang to r,qnol

"3• 

6nd lisingrov - Heese dial Action Sta`.enants IlSareS 22, 1965 

PERM7AG_. DTST_' LTTU^_Z0_VS BY STATrwq_ A .`!D FORM 

The Pollovivg staterents are ordered according to the percentage o° people sipporting the need for ar.d./or 

the specific action o :aposed for t^_e control of cigarette sxoking. The first statement listed Selo+ '_s 

thnt vhich received the greatest support :ron a cigarette control vie-rp'_nt ; the lest stateasnt received 

the least supprt £roa that vie•+point . 

E~tetemnts : 

tv wrded on Forms A, B, C 

_ There should be a special 

ptogram oP edacation 

about c'_garette sao 

:ti~ag and heaLth ai+sed a 

: 

children in school. 

Thera should be nore 

educatlon of the puSlic 

about the health ris'2 

connected vith smoking 

cigarettes . 

Sales of cigarettes to 

people under a certain 

age should not be agaicst 

the Iav, 


*Total 

Sa_^p1e 

Col . I 

Total 

A~B~C 

Co1. 2 

Form D 

Converse 

Coi . 3 

Fora C 

Co? . 4 

Forc B 

Co_ . 5 

.' vi.ie=ence 

' Betveen Fo, 

'C-D: A- C A-3 

wort_ ?osi- 

Fozm A ing tion Order 

Coi . 6 Col . 7 CoL 8 CoI . 9 

% Agree 92 .2 93 .3 8 .5 92 .8 92 .6 94 .4 f +4 .3 sI .6 +1,8 

% Disagree 5 .0 3 .9 88 .5 . .8 4,2 2 .9 1 -3 .7 + .9 -1 .3 

% No Optn•_on 2 .8 2.8 3 .0 2 .4 3 .2 2 .7 , -0 .6 +0 .3 -0 .5 

¢ Agree 89 .1 90.4 11 .7 90 .6 90 .4 90 .1 +5 .9 -0 .5 -0 .3 

% 7sagree 7 .6 6.h 84 .7 7.1 5 .4 6 .8 I -- .6 -0_3 +i .4 

% so Opinion 3 .3 3 .2 3.6 . 2.3 4 .2 3 .1 ' -1 .3 +0 .8 -1 .1 

$ Disacs-ee 87 7 87.5 88 .4 87 .7 85 .8 88 .9 ~ -0 .7 +1 .2 +3 .1 

% Agree 9 .2 9 .3 8.8 9.0 1c .3 8.7 ~ +0 .2 -0.9 -1.6 

% No Opinion 3 .1 3 .2 2.8 3.3 3 .9 2.4 ~ +0 .5 -0 .3 =.5 

# HSere Fo :m D statevcnt was the eonverse o : that on Forms A, B, C, the agee-disagrec percentages wre reversed 

PY_ pu-^poses of si:W.ation or coaparison . 

iF Indicates s -r.e •.'ording on all four ?oxss . 

1

y 

• 

!fern and Vaingrov 

S4ateaents : 

=s :rorded o: For- --A, 9, C 

Athletes snd entertainers 

yovngsters should-not be 

used in cigarette 

edvex!ising . 

IS cigarettes am really 

haxc=f •y then °edere'_ 

governmeY money should 

be spent on resea .h to 

Sin3 out vEw . 

6. Cigarette co^pan*_es should 

be required to put on the 

package the a a ount of tar 

and nicotine in thcir 

cigarettes . 

7. Clinics to learn hov to 

give up smoking sho~~.:d 

be set up to help those 

vho vant to quit but 

haven't been able to do 

it by therselves . 


Rexdial Aetion Statemnts 

• 

March 22, 1965 

Difference 

Bet"en Fo:ns• 

£orm D , *C- D A - C A-B 

*TOta1 1bta1 Con- 

' WordFosi- Sample A,B,C verse Form C Form B Form !~ ingtion Order 

Col. 1 Col . 2 Col . 3 Col. 4 Col . 5 Col. N Co1 . 7 Col : 8 Col. 9 

% Agree 80 .+ 81.2 77 .9 80.5 80.T .4 / 82 +2 .6 +1 .9 +y7 

% Disagxee 13 .7 12.8 16 .9 13 .6 12.9 11 .9 -3 .3 -1.T -]..0 

% So Opinion 5 .9 6.0 5 .2 5.9 . 6.4 5.T i +0 .7 -0 .2 -0.7 - 

% Ag-ee 79 .2 79.8 16 .9 82.7 72.3 84 .3 i' .5.1 +1 .6 +2 .0 

% Disagree 15 .4 1li.9 'n, .6 2.6 21.P 10.5 t i. .3 -2 .1 -,±.2 

% No Op*_nion 5 .4 5.3 5 .5 4.7 6.o 5-.2 f -0.8 +0 .5 - 0 .8 - . 

% Agree 78.2 79 .1 16.8 78.4 76.9 81.9 +3 .2 +3 .5 +5 .0 

% Disagree 14.3 13 .6 75.2 15.2 14.0 n .6 -1 .6 -3 .6 -2 .4 

% No Opinion 7.5 7 .3 8 .0 6.4 9.1 6.5 ' -1 .6 +0 .1 -2.6 

p Agxee 76.5 q9,3 26 .7 ,n, .4 79 .6 80 .6 ; +9 .0 +3 .2 +1 .0 

% _ sa6ree 18 .2 15 .6 67.5 17.3 1u .8 2,4.9 - _9,u _2.u +0 .1 

% $o Opinion 5.3 5 .1 5 .8 5.3 5 .6 4.5 ~ -0 .5 -0 .8 -1 .1 

* Nhere Form 3 statement ves the converse oS that on Forvs A, B, C, the agree-disagree percentages . sane on all four Poras 

for purposes of sursation or caugsrison 

Indicates vrording 

:ere reversed 

. 

i

8orn and Waingrov 

$tatevents : 

as vorded on Foras .A, H, C 

R. Ctge.rete smpkina i s 

9. 

enough of a health 

hazard for socething to 

be done about it. 

The general pubL*e knovs 

all it needs to know 

about the effects of 

smoking and health . 

10. _ndlvidvsl doctors 

should be active in 

making speeches to the 

general public abovt 

the ha,rfu~ess of 

ciga.-ette saolcing. 

11. Cigarette adver.ising or 

cozaenei.Als should not 

be requ'. rzd to carry a 

ve.^_Sng sta*.e m=^t to 

the effect that smoking 

may be harafvl to health . 


Resedial Aetion Sta'.ements 

Mareh 22, 1965 

Difference 

Eetveen Forss 

roz _ 4 

^- D A- C A-B 

*Tota1 Totai Con- 

Iuord- Posi- 

Sample AB,C verse Form C Form B Form A Ing tioa Or'ler 

Col. 1 Col. 2 Col. 3 Col. 4 Col. 5 Coi. 6 Col . 7 Co:: 8 Col . 9 

°p Agree 

f Disagree 

76.4 

16.7 

77. 7 

15.1 

22. 1 

71.8 

78. 5 

15.8 

76.0 

14.8 

78. 9 

14.6 

1+6. 7 

1 -6.3 

+0 . 4 

-1.2 

+2. 9 

-0.2 

% No Opinion 6.9 7.2 61 5.7 9-2 6.5 -04 +0.8 -2. 7 

% Disagree 71.5 73.6 64.4 68.o 75 .6 76.8 1 +3, 6 +8.8 + 1.2 

% Agree 24.3 21 .9 32.3 28.0 18.1 ao, 8 -4.3 -8.2 +L 7 

% No Opinion 4.2 4-5 3.3 4.0 6.3 3.4 1 +0.7 -0.6 -2.9 

% Agree 66.9 66.3 23.8 70.5 62.4 66.1 +1.8 -4.4 +3. 7 

% Disagree 2L_7 25.0 68.7 22 .7 26.7 25.5 -1.1 +3.0 -2- 2 

% No Cpinion 8.4 8.7 7.5 6.8 10.9 8.4 +1.6 -2. 5 

% Disagr~_e 62.6 610 25.2. 61.2 61.8 60.3 -6.1 -0.9 - 2 . 5 

% Agree 27.9 28.8 67.3 28.1 28.3 z9.8 +3.0 +1.7 +1. 5 

% No opinio1 9.5 10.2 7.6 10.7 9.9 9.9 i+3.1 -0.8 0 

* tinere Fo_-m D state¢eat uss the converse of .that on Forms A, B, C, the ag:ee-disagree percentages were reversed 

for pu_-poses of su^sation or coaparison . 

*'* Indicates saae wordi .^.g on all four forms .

E 

(••:u . 

• 

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Aexedial Action Statements . Y.erch 22, 1965 

. Form D 

' rTOta: 2ate1 Con- 

Sta•.em-nts : Ss ..^!p'-e Aa3,C verse Forx C Forc B 

es ~rded on For=s A, B, C Co1. 1 Col. 2 Col . 3 Co1 . L Col . 5 

Ci&,,.~:e _ ._. .°_-• . .-e-s 

should not be reqev'ed 

to put on the ouis .de 

packa¢e a var:Lng laJel Fp Disagree 

11ke,-"cigarette snoxing $ Agree 

is dangerous to Seaith" . Fp 5o Opinion 

3 . It is not the govern- 

-_ t's'o•.zs!ness'odo ~'Jisag .êe 

soaethLg eSOUt ~ Agree 

cigarette smoking. 4 Yo Opinion 

ihe advertising o° 

cigarettes shovld n et % Disagree 

be controll-ed or % Agree 

1lxSted. 

% No Opinion 

A cigarette coapeny should _ 

have to prov_ that i 

ciga.êaes are not ha=- , 

! i1J1 to heelth before % Agree 

they are aaovefl to sel-I ~ Disa,cr.ee 

~ the^~. $ Ho Opi^Son 


~ DS'_Yerence 

t__D - A - C 'A-S . . 

IWord- Posi- 

Fora A; in5 tio_ Order 

Col . 61 CoI . 7 Co:: 8 Co/ . 9 

61.9 60.4 30.6 60 .4 59 .6 61 .2 ' -2 .a +0 8 +1.6 

30.'- 29.9 62.4 30 .9 29 .T 2? .2 f ._ 3 - .7 -0.5 

9-1 9 .7 7.0 8 .7 1c .7 9-6 ~+:. .7 +0 .9 -L1 

59 .6 61 .3 39.L 55 .8 8+ .5 63 .2 !+7. .8 +7.4 y3 

33-'- 31.2 5 .4.0 36.2 27.2 30 .4 ;-3,2 -5 .8 +3.2 

" .3 7.5 6.6 8.0 8 .3 6 .4 ;~i . I+ -1 .6 -1 .9 

57.1 56 .8 56.3 56.3 55 .7 58.2 I-2.0 +1 .9 +2.5 

35 .0 34-2 33 .4 34 .5 35 .4 32 .6 i -1 .9 -2 .6 

8 .9 9.0 8.3 9.2 8 .9 >^ .2 !+c.9 „ ae.3 / 

k 

56.2 55.8 33 .2 55.4 55 .4 56 .4 -2 .2 ~1 .0 +Lo 

31' .9 35 .° 57.6 36 .8 35 .0 34 .5 +3 .6 -2 .3 -0.5 

8.9 8.8 9.2 7.8 9.6 9.1 +1 .3 -0 .5 

4'heze Form D stateaent vas the covverse of the. on Forms A, B, C, the agrse-dlsegree percentages wre reversed 

:or purposes of samation or comparison. , 

Indicates saxe wording on a'' four forms . ,

'~ . 

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%crn and Waingxov Rexedial Action Statements IDlsreh 22, 1965 

-_ Stntements : 

~ as wrded on Fo :ms .A, B, C 

j 16 . Federal gove rnment money 

. 

. . 

4 1 êseereL sAo•ud to ~~ . develop P~n eo a 

n:~v ca . . _ . . 

T1e smok'mg of cigarettes 

should be aro4eL in 

°e uer places thea it is 

nov. 

8. aothing sho•~.ld be 3one 

about cigarettes until the cigarette manu- 

:act,uers a .ê given a reaso 

.naSle euount o° 

t!.m° to core cp w th a 

safer cigarette . 

19 . Selling cigaxettes 

t:rougC e1gs .-ette 

mscSines should not 

be against the '_av . 


- uaaieze :.ce 

9=trmen Forms• 

Fosm D •C - D A- C A-B 

•'Mta : Tota1 Con- Word- Fosi- 

Ssmgle AsB,C verse Form C Fo:va B Form !y" ing tion OrdeT 

Col. 1 Col. 2 Ccl. 3 Col . f+ Col . 5 col. 6~ Col. 7 Oo1 : 8 col . 9 

P ~ee 

% Disag.êe 

>3.9 

38.9 

J~ .Y 

39 .5 

3'f .1 

57 .2 

56 .7 

35 .9 

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43 .0 

51 .9 

39 .3 

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; -.2 

r..e 

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4 Fc Oolnio2 ?.2 7.6 6 .6 8 .9 ! +- .~ tLl +2.2 . 

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% Agree 52.3 52.7 51.0 52.5 52 .1 53 .h i +1.5 .+0 .9 +1.3 

$ D

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}51n and .aingrov Remediai Action Statements N.erch 22, 1965 

.."tatevents : 

as vordet on Fo :ms .A, B, C 

20. The federal government 

should continue 

its practice o° 

-ob_ co ^îce sa;rort 

Sor the Saraer . 

21. Cig%'ette adver'.'_sLng 

shotifl be sto_s_r_d 

cocp>tel,v . 

?2 Taxes on cigar~ttes 

should be mueh 

Sigher than they are 

nov . 

23 . The seliing of 

cigaxettes shoulfl not 

be stopped mnplet~'_` . 


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~ - 

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~ D'_sacc! ee 33.0 31.3 38.5 34 .2 30.5 23 .~, 

I-" .5 -4 .8 -Ll 

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% Disagree 55 .1 53 .9 31 .6 56 .3 53 .0 526 ' .4 .1 -3 .7 -c .a 

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% nisagxee 61 .8 62 .2 30 .4 62 '_ _ 65 .3 58.8 ~+ 1.' -3 .3 -6.5 

% No Opicion 8 .0 7 .8 8 .6 9.2 6.7 7 .5 '+0 .6 -1.7 •0_8 

% Disagree 22 .7 22 .0 68 .8 22 .3 24 .1 19 .7 [1 -2 .7 -2 .6 -4.4 

% Agree 70 .2 70 .5 25 .0 70 .6 69 .0 72 .1 +1 .8 +1 .5 +3.1 

% No opinion 7.1 7.4 6.2 ? .1 6 .9 8 .2 ~+0.9 +1 .'_ +1.3 

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@hct in bof.nc,i pnt: out on cE(;ar.c•tt.os, in itcceT>t :ivc+, tas fi?: . pi .r.oai i 

said, nn.i, th o Amoti.et :n g•t:yA .6,c f:c).5s [oa: it, then i:hc :r,e in no coi)., 

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havc reepondcd, yes . 

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cxoperat.ion ir : sutw6.ta.An@ to the In'r.erv5eka atrd 

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y,l.nds of ttihi .n€ :s < 

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:ontiriu3nC, oh3igeltiorl to study the nnt.urc of the ProDS .can e.nd 

ha: 9t. oY..np•.es ovc,r the yoetr> ; yest, sir . 

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contractt d.o thct,? 

Na^ . Smro . 2'h1F; QeVUndRS on the riature of the E:onGrtaot, z;N o 

It ie t att .E;i y a r .i t,t•E:r of whether or not you tc seEl rn g -hr 

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14p> F:on:crc: of T'exa.s, Thank you, n9r, 

noo:, llwor, with x•epjix'd to your commont :; In your statewent• 

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tafr ha.s be:m te OrkcS Up by k•ha h'occR &,nd hx•up : 

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'Pho r e por8en oan't Put the P3cti re of e'ha.t you havo "Ms" 

In the r eoozre. , 

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P:zr.Kr,.t;Gs of' a§.FSrAY.cn t^sACh the )abo)S .nf; r/h! .•h conf•npsnr,: to 

the sPeW5ce.L ;ons Sn ti . N . 301t4, ena :[ Mu•t,Q :.t5.k.e to Presex,'Y• 

t•hese Qerdonst•refaonl< to yop Por• your itwora~ssia .on . 

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Ui . ~ lex•x'y, J wrould a+t ;y t•h a t Chere 7r; ?pee ;t9o inf'oruu.tSon 

on the srrbJeot in the e(d.v5 O ory oomn9tLC : % rr-port . 

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poitit• out tbea°c :r; a mUah hdf,r•her SncSdenoe of htx ;rtK d.5.sease 

, N011p: eJgB.Tet•tC 8nto1'OJ°& Y,(: CoMpa i'0$ to nolr- s V-.Okt`r4 :. ` 

~ I7% F of;err of J c .zas Why 3 o tIlerc a nm oh hir,her Inoidenon? '~ 

y 1dr o t. fi .t thab thE- E•s .E,nrc AUs do 

e Dx° . 7•erry• T hie•, t41° .tioge .rs , As one o f the r ravson'3 tvc- oont75,ur. 

6 to do reGES-crch . Vfe arEa at• teropting to f'ind the mneme r Co t Y is ~ 

ro Muoet i-on V!c do Irot•Vnow it tcrday . IVe k.no's ac•rc in o pe-tw of ~ 

rl thE: ef[e-Se+ of 61aoL9ng on 1410 b].ood oeESre?a, but :E don'c th2nt< ~ 

f2 tint e.o lia.vean oxp7 a ne t9on> 

yg A1l' . Ckix•tOr, 61ou7d the (lYtn'iJRnr~n EI'oW 'J'e~-ahF : y.iGld YCA` a 

iA ClUeati .0n? 

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yg . 1no5@enc,e of heaa't Q7Fe:ara Lhvxn therc SE: amont; even non- :Inoker: ? 

yp Dx% Terry, Jri the Port.Aouiarei:ualcs E:eir•nioa out, ? . , • 

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i{?sc:aso, uwou? .dn't you 1:h5 .nk? 

lU, 9'[:rry a tio not fcet tYrst Pt• 1s euty rc .nt•ati.cn o3' ~ 

the 8opie., or bei)oF that w(rAr'etYe sntok7nt, w ;y cavsc hs,art 

O.SflcY1PC . 

Mr . Ce.r•f.er . S8•i} . :c t hc P£oft of your ot :n :aive v ti. .gattJ .on revoa7l 

that• t•hosc wha hsve sn;okod and have 4n :i .t suok5.rtg ha vo n 7.csscr ! 

ia o 5?enoo of heart ciiFOase BY an even nomsmokors, r2ght? II 

Dr, 91erry ., 3 boli.evo . . .. ~ 

Mr . Ca:.rf•c:r, '1bank you, s5r. i 

Dr . 5'orry . ] woalci 7 .1ke to ohneK tJrAs ; wlth lle, Horito Thc :ref 

V10P Fi 6} .a$:h$ly 1C6Ser Jno$cl.CM-e? 

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U :tse£tse a.rnong 4hoso o,ho st•opped sraok i np, t•t6s Just E;bout the st i me 

as khFa.t xmong thoac 4rho ha@ nevcs srnoKec}, 

Din,. CrarLer, b5A you sF! .y ;Just n}tout the estmc? hvf : it oXact]vY 

Cho statnc er vrue if• ]ossY f•ns)vcr my quost:Aon yos or no, ? I 

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StiatisCioe4 daffereslecs arc : oS.tHor s7.gnif'7card~~ or not, sAr> Ij 

f3r, Ca.rt.ero Oct ,your f5gur•es out ctn8W rc'ae t;hem, if• you i 

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moY ing Tnce AucSdp.nce Sn iCa t.lna_n that among those vho ncver 

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9Tio Ohs'irvone Any further of ihe Poctor? 

II p1r . Hogors oP Tcrcaso 7 am Y7nlshed, t•h,nk you, 

Tho Che.S .rrcr:n . Mr . Younger? 

~i Mr• . Yourrger, LChank you, Mr . ChaSrrrwm . 

I 7 thank ' ; ho rU001Y7, IMe }lUrii, RhUi?}d bE a .litb :LP. C .1eEtreT 

on youY tiiekt;r'ou0ci, . You ffire hot a if1F(i]ea7) doctAr7 

IMr . Horn, ido, s5.r, ]d3.d my undcrtraduate aturk S 

' (,re Yo ;nCer ., Ylhere? 

. :i took my Ph .P . 3n psyehoTogy, 

' Mr, 11ors . At Ilarveu ,d UuS.vers3ty . 

PIP . Yovrogor,. .I;t }.rrvard? 

' Mr•e Horn . Yec, s :i.r, 

A" , Terry, Mr, Youn}ter, 7 th1nY K that ]rr . Hcmn, 5n ox•cier 

to sube•tant:5ate h;is poaat3An, traAn]nE, shouad f;Ave further 

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Mr, lfox•n, 4Ye :U, s3.x•, :1 have been enMagoiA 1n resenr•eh 

].argoly 311 tdhc hcn :lth f7 .e?Q for the r(i5t 25 yesrs, J . [:ave my 

f'l.rst 7octvrc on Fazb]ic opA.nS.cm rcwthods mhon Y was an ,nsta•uotor 

at }kirvard Sn l .Ml2 . 7 have bocn on the facu7ty at Ya7.s• and at 

tr3nceton s.e w,.P>>., 7 served +n the lusvy as c .u av3atA .on , . 

[MychOJe( ;W (iUrSIrg the Y80", afi a(dOb't &dvi .s(»•y oS'fSeel' anU 8r1 

euucatdco,?] reata.rch offieer . ) mcsked . for t.hc Air Vorce I n t .hc 

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w5.th aGinS .nict:rat%v!s r•etv}e;t9.ons for the hand3 .i.ng of accidcnts : 

both 7n t.hie eovriLry tndd i,n foreign eount•r :i .en, 

) hewc bccn ony,goG 5n cznccr research, cancer oontro] 

res ca r•eh, the ep3GOmoa.ogy , of caneer• and bc :}W ara K Problems 

.tn eHncer BinCo 3 .SI%, whCh 3I waH BItlp:Loyedd by t•he )1G1@r :iean CRhCB1l 

Society up vnti3. 1962 when J" leSf• the Amoracan Cancez•Sooiet•y I 

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and c81nc to worL• Sor the Yub]Sc He&.]th Serviee, 

}4ra Youn(SOr, J?i your r•esear•ch on oanaor, do ) : unctorst.:urd ~ 

that St 2(7d not hstVC enytM9hQ ; to do wi.th t•he ms:diou7 a9peotis of It? 

You wore work i iig on statistAor.? 

I" I7r•, Norn .. I nac work9hg on behavinra7 pr•ob7 ems : in the f'iold. ` 

of cancer and on the static4:9ca3 analysis of datar . Y wah one 

oY the ant :xiors of tho htimumnd ar,d }lorn Study whS,ch tu!s beon 

x•eferred to which iu bae:5eFt7 .]y e. long term pro9 :pect epiAemo] .oi,acFi' . 

3t:udy 5n whirh wo ecquirc•n i .nfornutAon on t•ho f!molc)ng Y.abitn I 

of 200,OD0 men anf .i'o33aacG ftem for four yea .rs, Sn order t II4o 

I etormiinc uhat the relflLiohsh£p was between t•hoi .r s moKinE ; Y,ubi .ts ~ 

'nd thoir F:ubscwont expcrSence in mortal`sty. I 

Mr . YounCcr . 9%an4c you . 3 Just fcat the rc-corG shoulQ d5rclolje 

U111' IYJ.E :Kn)•OVl,d . 

1'1r• . }iUrn . Y'C3y RiS', 

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ubjcat a 7.S .t•iJ.c further the=.n the Clx! ;cariknt diA, "vlc renomotcnd 

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,~kre'arcttes, arrarq ;o f'or a proqraro af msnuPaci.uro, ad.vert9c=S .ng, 

land to forth, 9f he Ss go:Ang to be oub joct to the whi .mo of 

?roc : individvaJ eheing?r1g h5,s rn:vici el .)l the tSms?71r,at 3 ;; the probl .er~ 

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be ne?de by one indiv5duall ho vinP: whS ms- aW . cicingynt; his nri .nd, 

tJir, Yovn@:er. ' 

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their minds . 

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r'Or9pDnBibil .ity would a0t :U] a rcSpon6i .bl.e ranner an d would OItiID g 

Lho reGu?.at5ons only when t•here was a so7ent :fic: bA sis for doin&; 

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ioUld go ttnvugh the proccss of the rogult:tory aut•hority wi .th 

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r2 ~ M.r„ Younger . 7a . dor•.ta='t Snd . :tnecte horo, your s :t[:.toment doosn' V• 

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.~mcL'~cnte, other tJx;~n it. wolftd be the rogu7a :tory authorSty 

« h.nd yov wov :!.d tc the ret;ai&9ory authorxty, o* the Comm9sr.5on, anci 

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D4v . Kolrnogayo 71ank yov, mr• . (:halrr'un, 

7 would l.7Ke to ci9 .recat t•hAs; quest :.on t•o Kro horn . 

AA'e }Iarn, af a paI't of' your• 66.ucklt$_ce5al pxogt'amov BniokS .ng 

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hil;h schoo]is of tho oovnLry'•' ls that r• :,ght? 

mo . }torn . Ycr,, s :ir . 41r vroUld do wlu ;t ne cov]U to L,~, .p 

looaJ oommun5t•G .es that scok oUn c0p ',n iravo7 .opSng such a prolr,rato . 

mx, Kor•nop;iy, Ncaa, you rra.dc a spoe ; 

February ) 965? 

Xr . }ICrrn . Yec, FA,r• . 

.h to tho A'atioral Assoolfevt5on oA' Sohool rldministreaors, )sn'tM tihUt aor .reot, b2r.k S.n I' 

mr . Bornef,A,r . 73 asc you, r.ar, of an t}o,t speeoh you @Sa3n't 

etat.e t•hat : "In audAtion to di .roctt tca.ch,ng about theW h,s•k~Cul 

oPfcots Yrom smok ;nf;" you suefcatc& that the tcaohcC•s voe CPU;ar 

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t.he rol.e o5' Uonp:ros: Lnd the h•eGorai . 'RrF ;dc^ Comi,tteslon Sn dovN .op-1 

Ang consumcr ssfeguardr; ax¢l the offcot oR S .nfinstry," ciasn't ' 

tSr~t a f"o•t of your nlxreoh? 

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i.his count r y Oo agreo on it . Y'h^t c?oec:n't mc::ut tPau c it :Is 

unani.uwus . 

Mr . HOrn¢pwy . Do 1 unRorsta nQ by that that thero are a 

qmbcr of outstah :ASng ooetor anUd beientir ;tu eiho tErhr-. Sssue nath 

youu on smo65n(< anti hc .tlth, that they ere not flveiAi.f'ieflY 

D7r .Bortr . 7 didn'L say that, sir, but Go you expoc•.t t1s;8 tao 

mv,st have 700 porcen4 ti(} ocment wSth ovary i4 :+ue hotorc: any 

pc.t .i .on In evc r t.crtcen? 

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igrooment .]don'U thSlrk that :1s the hoAnt . 

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. t; pcrcent . of Xhy 'citnt tYuct ci ra trcet t .th the t'0di nfs oP 

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Mr . Ko~rnc.(•;;cy . Wo).), Sn fi'act one mctaber•, haen"c Stt ba :ol byoogytiout, l aM noi 

. g.oYn(t: to re(Yat. it, ono mcmbcr of the Cowreic ;eS.oH ,. 

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not? 

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you 000 thlif: ik not SIICS', a aGlil ILGG :i(e%tl IIIE+ ; but• Roliie o1' the ! 

ma,t om3raoutr men, Sn the pofo> ;s:7on :cn the l)nS .CCro Statcs . f ~ 

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Ilare !>Na.ed say that they AoaS .ove smolcing is a hea]-th hasard., ! 

'3 thihkk thi .s Ss moro o7.ear•7.y a. r05']cotion ot t .he tiay the med :ica3 . 

proRcssS .on takes :tt and eva].ua8es it . 

b7r . Car•t•crr . 7Tv ;rd),y thi.nk tkrt t•ir.+.t mr,ny tlou_iA arxy thdt• 

IS.t oauses 7 .unF: caneer, that 9 .t has defin5t•eAy becn proved that 

5.t oaugcst?ds . 9'hat is niy point . 

Ilhoa7 .th . 

Ar, aorry•,Dr . Carte•, we are tAlfcing ahout smold .ng and 

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The Cha3rrzzn . ldouldd the Cent] .enrrn i.nCr.ulge uie at th ;d: po :rnt ,' 

In vi.ew of this ool].oquy bo9wceu tho two esteoined and htt ;hl.y 4 

roc:ogn :ized proS'ess3 .ona1 gcntlemen? bet we po9cthIr; que:

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I r lia fact, but you be]3.eve S .t to be true and thex•c is a caus y 3. 

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g Ii .s a prinei.FM oauso of :Isn(; c:anoer,. i 

t, The C1he;i .rttFm . hi.ght, I i 

y •1rI: . 4'orI`y . And other d9seeaes, though ) o2.nnot name the: ~ 

a speo£fie substance in c :4@arette snmlro wh :ich is ,rosponsAb].e Sor ~ 

p thin foet< ~ 

yp 9`ho Chairnr.n . A1.7 rigAt . Noro , right at th, i t po9nt, Sn v£ew ; 

t/ lof that situat£on, At Ss t ruo, then, aocord.£ .np; to your be.lief, I 

rg I land based orull.e £nfox•wzti.o) that you lave, tYu.t the smoKt .ng ~ 

• )a ;jof cigarottos Se; a health 1MZa.rd and na•y very welloause caneer . ì 

f,t Dr . Terry . Ycs, sSr . 

yg The Chairnr,n . Naa, Dr . CaI•te r , crniYrrr1 :; ~~eian that you 

Ia are, w ha t womld be wrong with re quir•ing a labcla that would I 

I , acW}aoledpe th3s to be a i•aot, that there would bo a labo] or 

s8 whatever epgmopr•Snt•e tcrn, that the 3 .ntxustry, in car'ry£nt out that 

yv ~prineiple would come up with that the smngSng or e5[;arettes 

48 I i .e a hea.l.tdr hafrrii and ucr.y c+ause cancer? V7oulc, you af 

.d toor,c : wo.y to u,cottt•,is prohlem? 

• pt h Plr . Carter . 1. th1nK, nnyono mS.Nht• say th,.ct c:inoring is a 

9y I 1hoalt:h lzzz• :xrd . I i ate to bo put 511 tho porSbion e .t: a w5tneaa- :m 

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InUOh E: od6o as tYds, 

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s the subKtinco t'•hat oausetV thi e proY) .o, buL he: an oonvS .need Yrom 

s the se5.ent :if .o evSdenee thJ.t 3 .t• is there . ~ 

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a agree to some approaoh to 3.t where the pcop? .c eloul.d be ad.v:sci+ jL 

E of what the f'oet.f are 3X?8of•8.T' as we know? 

to Mr, Cartor . I think, sAr, that. sartothang ] .A-Ke th)xt tnisgYR- 'i 

7t arrSve.G at .l%ol' lovex•, sinP.E` t•hCrC be ;n noaet•il.a) 

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iG f' toYt~.ceo Nnlol:e as they have by the JnYx'17ation of hydroCal"onf~ •~~-/ 

ts ~i'he CYalrmen . Then let rno Itbvke 4h9o po5r,t . You ntoul .d adrnAt: t I 

lkt oi .parette stnok7ng - -• eu?ll l don't taant to •- - 7 am goSng to I 

ts sk Ah' . Ko~rrnegay this Sn a YnSUUte •~- 1 don't wantt to put you 

t¢ nt] .elnen Sn eh omb:ax•rassfng pos9 .t9on,lvt the record has got to Dr 

20 ,~:n, blo ir7v0 f71t1) .l.y got to E;et to ennr,7 .da>Ang Ang th:1s th5net, os• ~I 

2t avo " t (;o to a fliVe or f:}x yeftr• 1aRlsaS .t. ,~ 

n% 1 it sctro/s to um yoo . v;ou)A c,gree, then, Unt a warnSng r,hoo)d 

PIIc gS.ven that slgarotto smokS .n[; 7s oa ha;).th ha var•(t . 

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lts•, Cartcr . :I. shou)ct c?e£'SnSt•e7y do th ;t•, s :r . 

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p. II lnr . Carter . UrrtSJ that is proven, 1 wou) .d not . 

9'he Cloairnuno Mr . Korr,oT,ay, vk,y :[ esic you the same clnest :ioir 

c Jl You como £ r orn &.n aroa that haa g5ven n lot oi' conE3do:'ad :ion 

g to t.hA.e grob} .en, and you Prl.vo pcop7.e, coneBAUontc of' youp own 

o Stat•o who havc g3ven th3s a 7oC of ctucay fr°om the stand .tioiin4t 

y oS the proiiuot :3on ao wel .l as other phaces of 2 .t, and 1 tx+.ve 

g hotm@ of the grcat re:cc>aroh labona:.toc5os propos.c.c7 ahG so forth 

s ; What woulcf bcywr r etictlon to that . Ki_no ds , an upprcaOoh7 

te !oW.fl you go t} u t far or not? 

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yiIthcac s^.asonr . A1s thP hoctorha .r pointr.P, out, F.f± h,s oeen ', 

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.i. o£ oontnot'crr.y . ]don't icnor the Pe ;ecut .ges . aoorit In,ow { 

hOU m°,ny poop7r O r doctora, c;ua?Sfi .cQ sc : .ent :s•ir, cay that 

ICtit does oa.uoe oane,or or laow nlany that it Coes not cause aancat' . I 

S$o Chai-r9rc+'f, . l3 aM not ta).K?.ng aUout t.hat noW . t iNn V.+. :rkd.n(l, 

.Dout tr.ovRi you al;reo th-.t thcre :le a hea,lth )er•r.ard? 

JM1r .. l:crnot ;yo No, trO, no 1 o?'c th:an thero is a hca,7 .th hazer 

Ilin thc itRal.crAnt ur,c- o5 r :;oct r,nyth nr o]sc. ~ 

Nun, noae in a poari 7 havcn't r11seU Gur9ng the hcvwrzngs . 

~t uat. ) i, rsfi 1 mb t5 mo . Do you F .y to r :-molcc onc e4t . o.etto 10 a ~ 

f 'ie.: ith h :aaP;ru one lr;ai ., or 301 i ..ny 4 I 

! You got =n8o n yver+ti,crn c p tho ryqt+nt9ty . Yoitf„t Snto R . 

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3n Flmer5cls, any kind of evidence you can coMct•, if it :s overî 

ucod. it in a health tr- . :ard, ccrt•ain7y ] cow .dn't ast th:t i 

tosacco or at .garett•es bc exempt•o Yiut S tl?7.nk onoe m¢start tPi .s I 

6usinoss of ]abe]Sn[; fd,tnps because somebofiy or smi?e large ar,Q 

su.bstanti».] group says it fs 6.anP.crous, then ?ue nre satti.nµ, a ! 

prett.y Gant;erous pr•ec:edcnt . 

Thero Ss on¢+ othcr re;ru+on, too, Ah+ . Che;drn on . :L an', as I 

Anterertcd ae anybody in thchea3th oP tn"a. Neti .cn . :[ am s.f; ~ 

ir,tcrestea ac anybody In tryi . ng to Hrr.+ t-+hother• or not thor c :,s I , 

isom• :thSn(; S :n c5gar•otte s ?noN.'Sn g that is dets•S .monta :t to hca)8h, i 

nd ]3 am i'aarfu] that ii'?ve p ut the stamp (,3' hcalth on tdie ~ 

-Spgretto and cverybody says t ha t So whct cauecs lrmg canccr , i 

h»t happetfo to the r•osearch programR And suppose it is not , 

I lrea]].y wha,t causes ].unr ca•naer• and usar•o ) .s,tt?ng : the cr9 .ra7nn] getj 

~rray vfhSle, we are ].ocklnC up somebody thr,t : vt bcsf. in M .y ~~ 

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The Ch'aSrm[m . X• woul.d ucorol.y like to suf3@c n t to tho t;cntlom2'n, 

rp knor:ing of his intenso Sptorest andd the aetSVS .ty th2?b hs hV, i 

pp d Sn thEs rield for a)ong time, and Uhe able way he rcprTsontsl 

21 ts Stat+e and h5s di»triet and h:7e oonst . :ituetroy, ]:wou]d Sust i 

22 I .S .Rr. to supF;er•8 to ,vou and to your g;z•eat Sridusta•y you h»d bvtt•er ' t 

2s ~t,c,rta. ].ot nf tihS.nlrir,t : on th!+: ar,d como up te :,th eo:nethU?t; tlx,t I 

25 licvcrybo!?y oau 7 .Slro w5bh or olcc :1 suspoot S .t in go4ng to bc, a) .otl: i 

scrrvcn•e t:brnr yoo udt ;Lb th5ne, ~ 


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ab]c n.rn, ano r ccx4aSn".y uaut to ao G!>.t ir not onry ,n Lhc 

g best 9 .ntExcsts of the oountry but i.n th„ best .ntorc.rt oY my 

G conrt7tuents, my o} .etr9cL, anu my state . I im trs.i . .l :ng to ) .asten 

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Tho GW9rnr?n . 3 ho(ro the g•-ntlenau rri 1)_ EtrrG.on me . :( just 

F thougbt it saas a gooQ oluanee to see if we oou'!.d.n't narrow thf`; 

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aont•roversy hore, buL a ean't sac that 3 y{,ve gotten too far 

w i t•h it . 

9 M,r . PCor4lepp y . 3 Lhtenk the Cha9r man hns eerta :tnly heAp a il a- 

great deal by that ots'Lente:nt . 

Jet mc just ask Ur . !Cerry a oouple of other quest :rons, ernd 

73 am goSnly to bc through, D1r . CY a 9rrrun . 

K Dr . TcrrY, :9cn't 5t reootaL'ze@ In meicioa) . c ;,•o] .es that 

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there Ac c:omc t .eneSS0a] ef'£'ects from .smoL:,ng In the ar•ea of' 

tuonts7) hea .7th? Ar 

. :corry, aI rea :U.y lon'8 knorr horr to anr.rsertYrtxG . 1 th?_nk 

lo Iyou Cet an extremo var9£ntaon of answerra if you ask rrany membc .rs ~ 

yp of the pro9'ess5oi,i . Certt+ :.n?.y persons 9uho hteve beoome habitu :rts :8~ 

YS i to smoking Tfnci some difY3cu7.ttes In stoppfurg, but 7l Qon't ; 

ys ~ think that 3 oouad Trane]y say thet S .t hee tnert ;] hea]th bsateP9tEll . 

9t II :)n the hrond sensc . 

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d of' slgnSf :leant. ben6f'3r.9a1M effcrc.ts o'.' sl .tok;nt YrSncvi .)y ,n thc : 

a ca of Mmltdr] hea)th, 

c 'h'hoac BoneSi.ts or3.ginato In a Nsyc:hc9mt ;c search f'o .r 

p iontwltment ana are uroasvxabl .o on?y In t.exi!s of i11G'iv5dua] 

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p hetav9or . SSnoo no nm^rns of nuanti .tat,nE; those he:neS :lta; . :is 

p aplHront thm Comrnfttwe finds no 4ae . :is a or al ;iudgmont rrtsl.c.h Wo.1et 

a weSgh benef :its versuU flaRcrds of slnolxing 1 :e, :it tn•;.y apPly to the 

K~ goneralj pop~a] .at;ion .~~ 

to Tlln othor wor'$s, there arc'll't yc'u bc+y :i .11Q;, not y[ra bUt yolU' 

It oomnii.tl.ee, the conmi5ttec tA,at has nmde ?t.s rel?ort to you say :ing 

/P }rlt In certtin 3nta.ncoe :,moK :nig 9as brnefic'~e~t ., and t8trt the 

• 18 co &ro7ttec found or krrc°e of no way whero they c:oul.d quant ;taMeJ .y 

te Iltwalancc off the bencfits against t,he detn ;p:ents of smolcang`~ 

16 f~' Ure Tcrry, 3 suppose thJ.e. is what thcy are tryS .nf; to sfty . 

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ts ~) thinlc it :IS very ~iAf'ficu7t to he any rnoro spec5f9c than they 

Ip Iravc beon hore, and th7s r,as the op7.nionn of i.ho cosMt•ee . 

4s I Nh• . 6:o :^nceily . Jn othor words,, t.hcs report does recognSzc 

tA It'd>a.t In cortoai .n Artcarlces cigarottes ecrc benoficia), the rnnacing 

?o oA' c5.p„rottes fr, beneflo2al ? Woul .dnrt that be a fair anetSysSe 

pt of that statement anco eone] .usion and summ;ry7 

~ gx lry' . TePry, Y. Qell't: IUIOIV roally . 

v.' rw.y llr . }lvnd7.ey oommcnt on this? 

D1ro Sorne-y.:yp A7.7 r5t;h1., cfn, 

;'I~I Pr, },t,iad7cy . lt},inlc vra ;nly, Ufr, the Conirrita .ee's i'ndMP, 


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S9AS t•h.t t•h :io is a h'abnt that. 5s pructice6Q so teafiely hy pcop7e 

that thera [nust be some benefit in S .i. soma pi.acc o)en thougb 

they c+an't, mc:asure 9 .t wr d.efo ine :1.t. . . 

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huthority oP the Y*i"C and :t feo) . 9t Ss a oonf~'essi .ona]. iratter, 

nd, of' eoin5o, ia" 9n the YlSsdotn of thAo Comtn :t .t.tce anci thG 

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•ongross, a.f'ter hearing this tcstactony the 3'eeiinR .is that bumo- 

th'ing rrocds to bc don2 andd shoW be done, )e.ou).d be snt :et' :.ed 

3-th the conc] .usions, knowSng this Corm¢ttt .ce and the 2air a,nct 

Judicio'us kay that; ne+.tters are handlu3 horc:, i r+ould aocept that, 

.orica ix,7. y o 

AL•> Cartlcv'•o P+ra OhaSrncen, ]tm in o.j,roUUm with the t;emtioac:.n 

rom North Caro)5.na . 

Thu Chm3r•nran, J3 hopo tiq col]es.y;ucfl rt?]l . unQerat£rndd that 

V1aE: Nere)y tS'y3ti g to get t11RSe h0ai"ing'E: l@eIK on the track to 

the spooSM prob).em tik:t t7c h a ve: bePore us, I+' not the aanC.uttf:e, 

M t Sn the pr3ne3p].e t:hst . Ss invo]vcd in the bi)7s that hsvc bcen 

roposed . 7. wou).d not cvant e5thar of my co)]caguos to t•hi .nk 

Yat 3 wa.s att•ornpt .ing to pin you down on any g3 v cn :te.nFSuc,.ge or 

~ny giver, pr•Sna3 .p).e . 7 t eras a general thou{;ht that I uas ta°y3.ng 

'.o got Sn t•he rooorci for our considerat3on a t the appropr .f.at•o 

d .nec., Ccrfs.iin]y ] vvant to make St very c] .o^.r td.1t )) have no i .rd.err 

L Son 01' ombax•r•essAng c :ithor oR you or l:nrttang e3ther of you on 

,he spot . ]do po[int• those 9nestd ons d3rcct)y at you beoausc Sn 

'oing so 3 th]nk S ao i a]ca~t :n'~g the Andue :t :ry : tee :tP to the f'stct 

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tho int•e7.]Sgenoo ibo t St tbas and, t•he calxrb :i].S .ties S.t• har : 

~c~t~ter start cotr~iuft ul, with sa~~tcthi .nf~; Por our consid¢ratE .on, tYe~.t 

PC 1 r0)Ph l with thehd R.n[1 with yoU hnd with the PUb),SR NPFn1t31 KrV :i9c' 

'~hnd lp :it'•h the Bed.Cx•r7.Trtadc Comm7 .ss4on eind tt :ith evorybody a)se N'k0t 


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and ] hope you v.51]. ut'd'erst::nO . 

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.o'ltty at thc . Thxtvias t•he purpoee o£' nLp steppifl(t irdo the co) J tdlnc :-, 

X vtou7d 15 .Re to say to m,v oo].lcague, iho.t tJ,crc rr4,y be, 

there n 6 y vcry uro :1 .7) be u xv .:ul.t, tAlateve:o vc do, thrt t•ri .]] P,avo 

an ecorom .ic irn pa c'ct on the :Industry, bu.t ccrta'ln"Ay no one f^c,.nY 

i to unneoesttarSJ .y l.èFtra lll the adUFtI'y 9nE.Of'0.r N6 tho coo11011ric 

impact SF coti0el'Ged . 

1nz5: wo ruust 831 rec•.ognizo that the hee,lth oi' the Nat :ort ia l 

~,p3ramowit• over wbsttever oconomflc resu7_tt= t.hat the lx'atiohzi) tsroeC ~ 

Ihave . 1 don't• 4h'Lnlr we aan tako any ot:he:x• posAf:ion, recot,n ;.aint; 

the imporfa .noe of tho eowtonric rosul'ts, too, '.Ch„'i• ir, t•hc : res. ::on ~ 

thin is a h9 .ghly soilnitilrc; a h :ighly dl,LYi .oUlW and a highay 1 

cont•rove.rsSa.1 suh j cot, Und 'J knort 3t is tr hot potato, but• ivo ~ 

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arc go1np; to 6.oz,;u hor.t we can w3ih 5t. ' 

Krr•o Nalr>en, our col7oague . Se recog rtSm ed not onl.y to ask '~ 

ny qucst9on, o£' those gcntJetin n, that h e dos :r•cn, but hefore 

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lookinF; groulp of youn(~• pcoplc ttat he bi'cmght l .n w55~,h hSm ahu ~ 

that we are so happy to }x,vc w7th vs toQay . 

M :o . Nelson . hir . Chalx'Ir.Ali, tha111c you . The eJass from ~ 

'orih .nl;ton, Mtnrtu otx, 3 th Schod t;roup Sx om UarRdrfn,tton, 

49YmcF ot~t . An0 13 uoua .d 0191,0 i75i:h you, t'li' . C) a xrlia n they are 

~l Vcil'y hc,5 .t.]ly •s;nCt [;oMi ./ .o0k'tllj; J .W . 

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~_ Sn hCYPo t'crtillA Q;i.or1, A4'iY,11C5ot0, 78 IJ1ok11 a5 thC tUPIC@y Pritl:.'GSl) . 

~ no t of' td,c a,ptt :c, not of the Not7oil, Lut of the woAsi, and . W s 

r, lI€'Jòup tt+?KCe a ta•5 p to l'•shfngi.on to vSSCtoLC NatJoil'h CzpfLSJ . 

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t [&nd h2tce been otc- cni t1-.e 3ouse ftoor t.o iry to €,et fl 3 . M o o ;f t:ho 

cai4vno>phcre of I v,r l .ogJ ; jo t . .te Dr o y p.ud t ;c xrc vcsyPt pNV tPrtt Q cy 

y~ICOVACt bv bc7`c to v5s :t a T our An_85a,1's PitPStat? ., 

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q somc t.5ha, Dut PcoJ r?:•oc to gcnt: uIr shd ?cavo rrhen you Uant to, 

yo bccauSc l knot ; i.:vcrc az .o wN_r:V Muga you te : .uh to soc-, c-r,(t P.ol't . 

yt ~fc:cl you z,re B]eturl:ng v.a, ldc crpoot• t•hect'~ you tea .7] wanC fin t°5.:; : .t: 

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G9nera)) of the 'On7tcd Stabc», :,e the m9tnesa at the nlonient•, urtd 

3 tn] .t;ht- Po1-ndt ot?t, Ph' . 'ibrry, that- Y am sure you kaos that one 

os• the b57J.s tx.t r7o hevo 'hoPore us : is Iny b :i :U., tmG :it. ;ie, my 

su(t(;c&t?on that ihe pac4st be :4F.bc-~ .~aod to .7.uo~ . .c u t~c 'c•hF, t i~hc- e :it;'ott.c 

s: Ilazy bo S .tijura .ou,, to hcaAt.h., or som M 7ng to that W ee.f. . 

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r~res}[ns ..t5?ity, e .nd. t:Pu.tL t :e :•hou?d gOe.et tvh,tcver t--W the 

e IdofAni'aon ox' the 7angaag•c to T;o on tho 6k,cl;xge, a.nd 'vP~,t rte a] .so 

U~are a 1 :7ti:Le: bi.to jcAlouF oi' hot•1 fap vie p,nni :it a x•ogulct•ory agcnny 

,o ILo (to, and x•e feel vto shoutd mcet our rss„mnuab :Clity Sn the 

p.q 1 1eo.e7nt9vo proe.esa . J: anl sure that you tvoiid a.cee6''c. rt>;,t. S :C Mat 

q,2 IbC: the Jnd(:nlCnt of the Oon(;Y'U,CB . 

., 3 Yn,vea*:, tluoetsi,onF, b1,r . Terxy, but 7) wantt to erelcomr you 

M, IaE`-1`'n heSore our Cornm:ititco . 

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M> i The CPpa7r'Im.m, Y.r', 6t:.44erf.'9 .c7.d`r 

hlp . F.•attorfa®]d . Y'tr:ullc you, I".T . Cho.A,r'uvan . 

21^foP o 1 be(;an, }: 14ou7d 1ik0 to W E:r braefJy to the 

iyo ~coli .oquy that Sttst• occurred., bec2 .use ) e.vi a now tnember oJ' 

.s ~CoiaFrccs [xr,c a ncu InernYc : of t•hir Cctmut.4•a:c 7) euu a]-euyer, ) tun 

,;2 Inot a ooc'.t-or or a cAerd0b, buL thczc are ccwe thingF abovt• tihAs ; 

who! .o r : .ta,ett .on tarat Qis•.t,urb Inc . 


9'he CYo- :irrntra . tdcru]ct the gentJ.eor,m Cx:cmtt nm at th :tn paint 

.t.i%G'%'Se7 .d., Yos, s :ir . 

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& : t.ho Con(:hc::,x, an(d of cov rse ot' thin Oon" :itte-c, tnt :k. wou)« ] :ICo 

" ito suggest the(t the gcnti)enO n 9s not eA :b'ol,y u, st r&r(ger to 

~jopa.oae95va Pz•ococd7 .ngG Lcauuss 4hc gHnf:)(tnu(n'e• dadscrvou an the 

'• COnC?°oss and :C Yr,d the prAv :C(ege of scrvJnl ; w :ith hfeu ]'or a goot 

i ra ny yos rs, anG, r onso9uo-h0 y, ho M tes soalot :h :iny Nbotait tzlrt,.c i.ho 

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,o,ucs4clon of so7cnt :Y9_o Cu+sAe : on rahich ahso)utc oone] .ttuj .ons a :ce 

tu'o(aulra :d bo have Leon en :f•ivofl at, a nd the stE,temente that hicvc 

boon maue :in rasponso to Clncsb9one, bE0_k ;xlg about zr suB :gestaon, 

IItH)I(irlg about (ait::}FtJ .C o ) 1;I'oLRhU . : .t :,eS, flnd. :( 

I iIYG everl more 

Kiixta. ;.•bcd th at S M wc7.yht: and as•e05Gi_l5t:y oY' t.he hcc7.e r •r, :l . C:ove rn- . 

nent. Lflrs boen t0?cc4 ol,t5 ;,'c]y kroh .r,GN thin ooncl .ucion, s•:hfch Nn!te 

Iwo In the pos5t•Son of' not PvJ1y be :ing eble to exerc•~5 .so my eoelf~) .otr 

i~x•a•o1~C9gvo lncaE :.t~S~c :( 4.hInk t.hu.tt vIo have f:ot to reoopTdzo t•k> .1t 

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9 April 1965 

I am Willard Dalrymple, M .D., Director of the University Health 

Services, Princeton University in the Honorebl .e Frank Thmnpson's 

district . I am aAso ChuPrman of the Section on Clinical 

Medl.oi.ne of the American College Health Association, and 

appear to pepresent: the Association . The American College Health 

of • nurses and others 

: "Whereas a 

Association is theprofossional organization 

the nation's coSlep;e youth, 

responsible for the health physicians, of 

now four million strong . 

On April 28, 1 .962, the American College Health Association - 

adopted the following resolution 

preponderance of the scientific evidence (with scan t 

counter evidence) indioates an association relationship and 

suggests a causal re L ationship between cigarette smoking and 

some diseases, and 

Whereas, the cigarette smoking habit often is acquired now by young people either not long before they commence, ow while 

they are attending college, and Whereas, colleges and universities are in a particularly 

advantageous position to undertake an effective educational 

effort to stop and to prevent cigarette smoking by college 

students, therefore be it 

Resolved that the AmerieanCollego Health Association, recognizing 

the above mebtioned relationships between cigaret,te smoking and 

some diseases, urges its entire membership -- both Snstltutional 

and individual -- to attempt , i .n whatever ways consideredd most 

suitable, to discourage cigarette smoking by college students and future alumnie 

." 

• The Association hae : not had the opportunity to take an 

offi

The ability of labelling of oigarette packages and of 

cautionary statemOr [a with advertising to disgourage smoking 

cannot be demonstrated with such facility, of course . 

We can call upon what the lawyero call "res ipsa loquitur", of 

course . If advortising and paokage design do not attract smokers 

• why do oigarette companies indklge in them? More important than 

that argument, however, is the fact that the percentage of non-amokers 

entering Princeton has gradually risen over the years . 

Of the class entering in 1948, 58% wore non-smokors, but by 

1963 80% of the entering class were non-emokers . This gradual - 

rise has been due to the oonstant exposure to the facts oil 

the effect of im8mxmatimmx cigarette smoking on health . 

The constant reminder of prospective or actual smokers of these 

facts by appropriate labelling and by statements included with 

advertising will similkAly help to reduce smoking among our 

young people . 

These are our reasons for mxgmgx urging legislative action . 

IThank you for hearing me . 

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you kr,ou hou many pcopJar Josv theii . l.i.vps evcry year f-roaa 

ateLWmui . 1 thir :L i t Of - c,+wa ^ up .:Uovo 40, 000 . 

tax . 1rar.uslcry . )t. Ss evcm Y-aoTrso 4hen 3 tdionght . 

Whc• Ctvai.raa4-re . :( Inercly n+enEion 'c.i,is to .re;ia:e L c,!ueot5cn1 

E?b to t:'h3 be (2oi/t . OC+ O:cattAthL81q tllpoUt bCdpO Of the50 Gth65' 

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the cvi.Aonce £n tha t evsai the i,ri.i,o+' uue o f cigarettcc, rc : SonJ 

utr they e>.1•e inhrJed iu K zeai'ulA wh,i? .o the rsodcrErco• usa of 

rJ.oohol, aasttroi .ncj t.hrt the iuc;av£Qu...il nan confxol- it ., whi.ch 

is iaott necoesarl .l.y correct., is: not._- 

'tho ChuixWa n . We uzv taJ .Y.'r.hg e b oui', the t;r, .gr.ee nornv, as tc+ 

r.ha t to do to ga t to the reaJl pxoLtcia . lecra r,ieu5y peoplu Hio 

Rcaucc of it . 2'ha4 i .c : WhaE has got xc Jot oP poopl.e exci.teG 

~I nvur• nmol(,i~rcicxc~c~rciLec, J .asig cauc er . 

Isut. X aaa (sur o thut tSlere nse a 7.oF'E mozc paopte tAat smokc 

ib thi.s couetsy, very' J . ;.kel.y, n ;orv 1> O oC+lc that omoke t.hun cvo n 

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n, hixi yotoc uzo.thers, if you oou1G enri.te Mc= .laa• or \ar :[ke t7 :c• . 

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yepr- hord, 4r cw,ites -zc not F cr< s rco t .er you re with . 

•ycnnct peopJC, what . vzrJ.is you [[ h :t+iM t :hc _e vz,ricos tti»qr:? . 

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p2opl.e c,z,q ci,n,arettxe: eyonct pera7 .te1 . k•ec%7u. ::e a noetcs woulA i 

4t- I~ nevcx' pr'OserShr- @t,em, r=iCLough thcye Ar, somct .hS .uy .boN t.hc• ~ 

pr:ych3eP .ric LcncfSt. . f4 c.oot .oz rr .ys nnbo?±y gei,r. IJcVec :,:o ot•t 

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UY' . 'tti ./ .l .i ;aie : . L7r, Qhai .e•m„n, ) tih7 .rik 3 oan ga .vc yov, thi- :. 

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,r+d patho : og?u .a rrsc-f,rch . 

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'cviCerrec prc .enS,cii by Thc many F :t .udi .eo repori,oG In rcnent• yc ;:r ::' 

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-vlr.crsYy Uui€ ;ai:v 01 7'v hypei.heaaia. . nbVc KWoss, chc . :c: ? .0 

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have tht- iY :Y]M t rp,(6t't-tbE: FIAOJCOrS, i 

9'ISC: W(= Geno,-] ."- Adv :i :try Ctwrui .fceo Rcpc,rt of JF,nuta :y i 

196, pwo Bc,ceCr a doop Anrprc.W on on the pulUio and it. we;n ~ 

k( ~jrecc"M efi a rs the vo9 .ce oF btu thoilty . 4 i .S- time note fbW the^ ~ 

- ~jOo np:YCta to 4.t:kr, spprop r .'i o t.o ren :e.09a1 . rlc t io s ° e.,o recommanCod 

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to hv iC sntni( iehav7_n ert orF :r:.r(2tc 

.aMn'r1n6 ,rwnt EN yovn€, 

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the ,cp an(; nicotino c:orri.ent 7n the tnadn .tre ns, nr' :obroon smokcl 

he 7.erb(acx& Oay thSrJciup ; is, r;e PotJ.orv : WurtunateLy, there aSc 

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ea.rnc+:f.7.y Ocr :Sro to (Jo r;e . Tkre ::e pcoplo xSf :h to remoLe the ]eae& : 

harrnSUi a5gtn•ctto rvt:?7aL)e on the mr,rl :e-t . At the presentt time ~ 

there i: na f,e ;'tisl'actoay e :aN We the oon ::vAw r to jv.Oto the ; 

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e£' vlie(i Oi' t.bi` fr,(i ni(:ot.JYe. ~ I 

liollever, there 5s_ evf .(Senes f'roni the Cancor t`revE:ntiOn StuOyf 

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of tho A(ne ;r5uan Ca.neer Ser,:iety, 3n (ah9 .ch reo aro Sollo(v5ng . 

!1),700,,000 pcrr:on:> for Wx yearf ;,t.hat people (eho smoke eSEau°otteu : 

~~7-oia irf n?cotlne and Mr content coug'h ) .esF t.han pooplo (vo emoke ; 

, Ili l ciGEirottc:s bi.eh in nieotino an0 ta r . A continuedi cough, re huve i 

., 'I~£'MUU;, it3 a Wn(eer signa] t.hnt. ur,y po5 .nt to Wg oanoer, A 

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••iu5a d e y ql :}n ga om ( :)ui a4 4G 14( • U : :na .:r,y lv 0 l 'dd (, 

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SUGGLSB'IONS 8012 DR . WILLIAMS TESTIMONYt 

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In conclusion, Adr. Chairman, I would like to add tfm following 

pointa to my written tostimony : 

1 . That the American Cancer Society strongly endorses and ::upporte 

thc rocornrnondattons of the U . S . Yahllo Health Servic :e, the Federal Trade 

Cornrnission and the National Intoragency Council on Srnokinp, and F:eatth 

that ci garette packages and clgarotto aovortisin g carry warnings of the 

health hazards of cigarctt .o srnokinS . . 

2. That we agree with the Surgeon General that the type of warning 

choutd be teft to the regulatory at;enciec of our Eovcrnment charged with 

these responsibilities ; namely, tho Z'ood and Drug Administratlon for 

wzrningc on packat;es and the Fedcrs .l Trade Cornrnis ::ior. for wanilngs on 

acivertlslng . 

3 . That the American Cancer Society urges Congress not to enact 

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loy~lstatlon that will prevent tha'so a2wneies from carrying out their 

reeponstbilities con .cerning health warrdnEs on cigarctte advertising . 


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CIGAitETTE SMOKING : A SERIOUS HEALTH HA7.ARD7 

POkITSON5 OF 

MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATIONS 

Physicians have testified before Committees of the United 

States Senate and }louse of Representatives that they are unconvinced that 

cigarette smoking is harmful . These physicians have a right to disagrcc 

with majority opinion but they represent a very small segment of medical 

and scientific opinion and they speak only as individuals, not as representa- 

tives of any medical organization . In fact, every medical and health 

organizatimn in this country and abroad that has studied this subject has 

agreed with the conelusions of the United States Public Health Service that 

ci~arette smoking is a serioue health hazard . And no medical or public 

health organization has stated that cigarette r.xnoking is not injurious to 

health . 

The attached statements are evidence that the view expressed by 

these "unconvinced physicians" aro in conflict with the positions of major 

professional organizations in this country - organizations of which some of 

these physicians doubtless are members . 

The issue is : Are the health policies of our Nation to be determined 

by overwhelming scientific evidence or by the contrary view of a few 

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AMF:RTCAN ASSOCIA'170N FOR THORACIC SURGERY 

"k9IP:RF.AS there is irrefutable evidence associating cl.garette smoking with 

such lethal end dinahling dtsorders as cnrdiovascular di'sease, pulmonary 

emphyseme and cancer of the lung ; and, 

"WHEREAS thi .s evidence has accumulated largely from the observntions of 

physicians and surgeons concerned with pulmonary and cardiovascular diseases ; 

and, 

"b'FIP:REAS the overwhelming evidence of alarming inormase of cigarette-caused 

dcath and dissbility is most apparent to thoracic surgeons ; and, 

"M41NRb)AS the other branches of medicine and the public look to thoracic 

surgeons for leadership 1.n dealing with this vast public health problem ; 

for Thoracic Surgery urge all its members to intensify an 

"TF1ER}gORR BE IT RESOLVED that the American Association 

campaign educational directed toward the 

public in general, and youth in particular, relative td the health hnzarda of 

smoking ; and, 

"BE 11' FUATTIER RF.SDL@:D that the American Assoei .ation for Thoracic Surgery 

recommend to the Congreses of the United States the passage of ]ogd.slation 

that will regulate advertising and require a warning label on merchandise 

na a necessnry and important step in leading the citiz :ens of the United States 

and the world toward an eventual understanding of this dangerous habit ; and 

"BE IT F'UATtlER RESOLVED that copies of this resolution be presented to the 

Congressional Conmittees which are involved with legislation in this field," 

Resolution passed at the 45th Annual Meeting, in Executive Sessi .on, March 30, 1965, 

New Orleans, Louisiana 


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IN 971E 1iNITi :D STA11F:.3 

ST'ATT1P1iN1'S AN7) RESOLVPIONS ON 

CTCARET"1'N. SKOKINC AND LUNG CANCER 

IffiALTIi AGFINCIES AND PROFESSTONAL SOCTE'PT6S 

YUbLIC IUTALTII CANCEIi ASSU111ATIl1N 

March 5, 1965 

"RESOLVF.D, that N,erc 3e sufflelent cvldmmc available of n relntionshlp 

between smoking and lung cancer to justify advising the public to etop 

smoking eigar

AY.ERICAN PU6L1C IIEAl .9'If AiSO ..]Al lO N 

"WIIERP.AS . lung exncer Is e rapldly incrvasing fntnl dlueese . .,,an d 

"WHEIti:A ecientiffe evtdunce hne nsonbllshrd that ukeaeslve. cigarette amoking I . 

e meJor factnr lu lbe dleense, an d 

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"WIIERP:AS, puhllc heatcl, nfficinln In the tlnlted 9 1 ntee and many oO i er oountrioe have 

potnted cut ti,c rolatinnehip bctween clgarerte smoking and lung cancer, therefore be it 

"RESOLVED, that the American Publle Health Association call upon health authoritlee to 

undertnke n bruad edurntionnl effort, enpo

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TNE Al31RICAN HEA1Cf ASSiC1AT1uN 

"The. 1963 Ad IlcCn~mdticu In nnd Cnrdiovascular Dfaeasos rrported . . . on Mny 11, 

1963 . . . that there 1s mdf(civut rvidenrc of the imrniful effects of cigarette smoking 

on health to werrent discouraging tce.nagero from developing the hnhlt of nmoking . The 

primary evidence of ihc harmful effect of clgarette omoking remnins the otetiatLCal 

rela[fonnhlp betvcon smuking and morrallty tran coronary artery dieense, but a number of enc111ary fenturou nre aian recngnleed, 1ncluJing effects 11, emphyaorna, peripheral 

vaseular diseaso, anQ not to be u urlnoked, tlm relatianship to cnre(noma of the lung . 

Accordingly, the Conunlctce rcconm,ends thnt the National Office of the Acterieau Hom't 

Anmociatlon, aa well n Afflllat .anA Cbopter Ilenrt Ausnclnttonu he pnrnd .ttad to join 

with other voluntery end nffictnl health agertcieo In educatlotwl progra m for teencgers 

rolotlve to eigerette sn.king . 111, Cnnvuitteo furthee recmnnends that etrong oncouragement 

to ntop smoking,under physlclau nupervision, be given people who have a high risk 

of death and 111neas from coronary ertery disease and myo

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THE ANJ:R7CAN COIdk:GE OF CHEST I'iIYSICIANS 

"MRIEREAS, the weight of ocientlflc evidence distinctly indicntes that cigarette 

smoking and t.he Inhclatlon of other atmospheric pollulanta have an association relationshlp 

whlch atrnnRly nuggestn A caune and effect connection with chronic bvonehitle, 

pultoonnry emphyeema, cor pvlmooale, curdlovaacullm dlsease and cnncer of the lung, and 

Wherena, there fo•lncr'eoting scfenttfic evidence that vivuaea and other agents etlll 

to be defined may piay a role in the e etiology of cancer, - 

"TNI:kEYOkg, hY YT RY.gOLVHU that the goard of Regents of the bnerlcan College of Cheet 

Phyeicienn urge all of ito members and the medical profession In general to intenelfy 

their educational campalgn directed toward the public in general end the youth ln 

particular relative to the health hezarda of smoking . ,,, 

From a resolution approve-0 by the Hoard of Regents, June 22 . 1962 . 

9'IIF, AMHR]CAN COLLEGE IICAL9'li ASSOCIMPION "WIIEREAS 

; a preponderance of scienulfle cvldence (wl .th ecant counter evidence) indL 

cntes an association rel.allouship and suggeata a cuusal relntlunahfp between cigarette 

sn,oking aad somc dlecasee, and 

"WIIEREAS : Thc clgarettc nmoking habi.t often 1s ecqufsed now by young people either not 

long before they eamnence coilega, ov' while they are ettendi .ng college, and 

"WIIEREASt Coilrgee and Onlvoruitice are In a particularly advmttageous position to 

und er take an cffectiv e educational effort to stop and to prevent cigarette amoking by 

college students, therefore be It 

"RHSOLVIiO : That the Mmr(cnn Co11eY.e Ilealth Ansocintion, recognir,ing the above mentioned 

ralatlonhips botween cLgarette smokln mtd aome dlseesea, urgea itu entire membership • . 

both fn ::tltut.lonaland I.nlividunl - to attempt, in whatever ways considered most . 

suftable, to dlscourage cigarette mmoking by collegee students and future alumnl," 

Adopted by tbc Cuuncll of tlm Ausoclation . April 37, 1962 

APERICAN g6H00i . ItF:Alll'll ASSOCIATION 

The praetlce of thee endorsemont of tobacco and smoktng by outstanding athletes in 

public media advertising, with its obvious connotations regarding health and 

physical fitness, undoubtedly effcets the attit .udes and behavior of fmpressfonable 

school-agc youth . 

• The American School Health Asauciation, recogniaing thc evfde.nce Ilnking tobacco 

with Impatrcd pcrformance, health and longevlty, considers the use of tobacco 

advertising in the athletic setting and/or by athletes of renown as grossly 

misleadlrng and a hindrance to the proper health education of our youth . The 

Assuctaefon condemns tlm practice end urges nthletes to refra/n feom the ethically 

indefensible use of lheix names . 

Approved by the Governing Council, at. Annual Meeting, Kansas City, Missouri on 

Nnvemher 10, 1963 


SOCIETY OF STA1'E 11IRECTON .S' .POR IIEN :f1i, .1'IIYSICAL EDUCATION AND N6CkF.ATION 

"RES01 .1ha1, That the Society af State Vlre(tore of Ilenlth, Physlcal Cducaclsn end 

Recveatfon go nn r .ard al uncournging the voluntnry health agencies and the yubllc 

heallh service to cont/nue and lntennlfy thel.r effurts to educate young people about 

umokinR, utllizing nll npproprtnte manhoda, lneluding the wlde dlntribution of nmterieln, 

~ end be It 

:I), further "RRSOLVF That lbe Society nf State Directors of llcalth, Pbystcnl P.ducnllnn and 

Recreation go on record as favoring an intensive program of education to acquaint young 

people with such ocieotlfic lnformnllon en will help them understand the harmful effecte 

of cigarette an,oking sa)d wlll IceA Lbem away from the use of tobacco ." 

Adopted at tbe 35th Annual C1ceting of the Society, Marcb 17, 1961, 

AMgRICAN ASSOCIATION FOR 1'IIORACIC SURCERY "RgSOLYGD that the American Association for Thoracic Surgery take offictal cognizance 

of the increasing hazards of bronchogenic carcinoma, pulmonary emphysema and their 

relationship to cigarette smoking, and 

"RESOLVED that noticce of this action be sent to the Surgeon Ceneral of the U .S . Publfc 

Health Service and tlre American Medical Assoclation ; that the medical profession be 

informed through appropriate publications and that the lay public be informed through 

the lay preea ." . 

• Paneed by the Americrn Aesociation for Thoracic Surgery, April 10, 196) . 

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SOCIETY OF 

TtIORACIC_SURGEONS "HHEREAS, scientific evidence strongly indicates a relationship between cigarette 

smoking and such disorders as chronic bronchitis, pulmonary emphysema, cardiovascular 

-'sease nnd cancer of the lung ; and 

"WfIP.REAS, the bulk of this evidence has accumulated from the observation of physiciane 

apecializing in pulmonary nnd cardiovascular disease ; and 

"WIIF.RP.AS, the overwhelming evidence of the alarming increase of cigerette-caused diseases 

and disability is most apparent to thoracic surgeons ; and 

"WIISRF.AS, the other branches of inedicine and the public look to thoracic surgeons for 

leadership in dealing with this vast publi.c health problem; ' 

"THEREFORE, BE IT RIiSOLVEI), that the Society of Thoracic Smgeons urge all of its 

members, eapeciolly the elected officers, to support an edue.ational campaign directed 

toward the public in general, and youth In particular, relative to the health hazards 

of smoking ; and 

"BE IT }Mi7RIHR RP.SOLVFP, thnt a copy of this resolution be preeented to the house of 

delegates of the Americnn Medical Assodation and to the Surgeon General of the 

United States Public: lleall :h Service ." 

Passed by Society of Thoracic Surgeons, January 25-27, 1965 . 


SURGEON GENERAl . OF 91NF. IINITED S9'ATCS pUBLIC 117.A1 .5'll RNRVICR 

.,the welght of evidence is Increasingly poluting in one direction ; that excessive 

smoking in one of the causative factore In lung cencer ." 

From Pub11 .e Heelth k.eporte . Volume 72, No . 9, page 786 . September 1957 

• "The weight of evldtncu at preeunt Implfcntee amoking as the principal etiological 

factor ir, the inereasod Incidence of lung enncer." ' 

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From the lournal of the Amerlcan Modlcal Association - e weekly publication . 

Volume 171 , pngeo 1879 1837, 1'159 . . ' 

. . . . . . . On the basis of prolonged study and evaluation of many lines of converging 

evidence, the Comnittee mnkea the following Judgment : 

"Cigarette smoking is e health hazard of sufficient importance in the United Statee 

to warrant appropriate remedial action ." 

Prom Smoking and Health : Report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General 

of the Public Health Service - Accepted as the Official Position of the Public 

Health Service, 1964 . 

SURGEON CENBRAI. - U .S, Alll FORCE 

"1 . The ever-incrcaeing evidence linking c/garette emoking with lung cancer, pulmonary 

dleeasee, eardinvneculer diseases, etc ., can no longer be Ignored . The eurgeon 

General, IISAP, has tnke.n a firm stnnd on thls isnue and bea informed the tobacco 

companies that gift e.igarettee are no longer acceptable . 

2 . To ellow the free dintributlon of cigarettes In our hospitals and in flight lunchee 

suggests to our personnel that the Air Force Medical Service, I.n effect, condones 

cigarette smoking . To do ao In to repudiate the overwhelming evidence of many 

medical research teenm working independently on a world-wide basis . 

3, Henceforth, gift eignrettee will not be accepted for free dietrihution to patients 

in USAP Hospitals, nor will they he placed in flight lunch boxes ." 

From an order of R .L . Bohennen, t7a,ior General, USAF, NC, Chief of Staff, September 17 . 1962 

PRESIDENT'S CO1R41SSTON ON HEART DISEASEiCANCHR AND STROKE_ 

. .The Commission strongly endorses the conclusions and recmmnendatione of the 

Surgeon General's Advisory Committee on Smoking and Health which, in addition to 

confinning previous reports, stated that smoking is a serious hazard to health and 

indicated the need for more aggressive programs in this area . 

"It seems apparent that the reduction of cigarette r.moking offers great possibilities 

for the prevention of illness, disability, and premature death fn this country, with 

regard to both cancer and cardiovascular disease, .,,,," 

From Report, volume 1, page 46, 


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tF tHat . IRrt yon 6*ay therc :!_s . Dooe: thtdt mean there er•c mope peop l .e 

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pt, ~ llp, iV:CUifln :: . No, s :i.P, l Gon'tL th9nk t.hat . 7 don't think ~ 

sP i;nyono An 1;hi; i.'ieYd t•hinks the.t. ~ 

Mr . Rogcrs of Toxas . Aon'tt rni.aoanAeratand mo . 3 am hot. ~ 

~t 7.ookfni3 at this froin t•ho stel+6po9nt o9' you ;iust go3.ng ont and 

try4ng to ciea.trc•y Ponlathint:, but 3 m(;an from the atsnef,oSnL oS 

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.~itn sih ;.ch you [-io thr :.t r-ou ttmuoht you t1csC eg+tnst. M rmt . :urc(, i 

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( teY.CVYC6 LH :.t b0U)0 dirGCtl .y oY lnC,tG'ctJ .y fXOvent the L'eOCYU) 1I 

lc ~JTace Cormd'.:s,ou from eettng to prot(ct 1d,c pat+]Sc by suporvSa :iorf 

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1'c0o7°a) . Tre,Gn Co:mu9ccsi .on Oocc; nott hrve r .ny prnvct .: un)ec;c: wc 

[+5.vo thoo 'do thom . S1ow they way ond up tvi'th thcm, 

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p}s ~~w.LA?t viet: to t.aU :c 

. 11 I Ynu arc hrilpy ahout a.ut.olnab :.) .er :, t :renli. 7nu'r You c!uot,ed ~ 

.r ~~thc )tei:y Sr,n,:bor Shat. they can be wllde 01 lis.ght 1f used ezro- . 

}r. I I fu7) .9 IRnd 4Vh i 01tFy Can he IdfiOd eLrofl3) .)y, ]'ir'UaiU Selt'Ger R!n ~ 

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t ; j Icar,corned aLout: a7ooho .l aid automotn .les . However, S.n tha .e d(ly 

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f7 .e).dr,M an ) undcrstand Sf., to roguls,te the uee aid nhusC. ~ 

'~ Idr . Rogere of a'er:ar . H5.11 the gont)etiau y5s16 tor ono I 

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ineven c0ex8 or. •sh .;.t bcSore . )f : .t i.r.; not :, Y on have s•.ns:nerc6 ,. 

~ IpY 4VCat•i .on . 79yW ,y'ol1 ; C. tiN.eh, pOC t o2' . JitGl throV8h, ' 

~~ 510 C:hatman . Wo t.hc (:eht l ezr mm l s Ois t ,->icF proi/uoe . 

li7iromo Sol .tzcY too7 . 

I~+I ffir . Ue,rns7cy . 74' S .t 1s trad r1e cto . O/e have iSot• ovoryt.h9_np;. 

li 9be C,hairman . Iroo4or, i.hat you ve:ry r:rach . Wo arc i raWful . . 

II~ to You {'or ,Your 1)at•S .m-,eo 7n weSta.nEi m,t1 1òr Che opNo r tuhAt :Y Yvu ~, 

I Wo 61ivr-n w; to hcv r gou, anti nc ch-c.ul: you for your prosPnter- 

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ilvc,v bavo Drr.t! et St vcr l harG 03)] Gay too . J' E57 . 

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