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TPS54319: tps54319 uvlo resistance

Part Number: TPS54319
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS54561, TPS62826

Hi Ti

I wonder where the 4.6 in formula (3) from tps54319 datasheet comes from? 

Because the calculation of R1 and R2 are different from tps54561 datasheet, which one is correct?

Thanks for helping.

https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps54319.pdf?ts=1614046763490&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.ti.com%252Fproduct%252FTPS54319

https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps54561.pdf

kingson

  • Hi Kingson,

    Thank you for your question.

    The two formulas should provide similar results, since R2 and RUVLO2 formulas are the same.

    Assuming VENA = 1.18V, and multiplying both numerator and denominator of (4) by RUVLO1, you can see that both numerator are something like VENA * R1.

    The denominators are slightly more complicated.

    Starting from R2 formula, we can write its denominator like (A):

      

    Moving to RUVLO2 denominator (after having multiplied by RUVLO1), you have:

    From RUVLO1 formula, you can obtain (B):

    And substituting in the previous one

    Thus (A) and (B) have the same structure.

    Did this clarify your question?

    Please ask again if you need further support.

    Thanks,

    Stefano 

    All information in this correspondence and in any related correspondence is provided “as is” and “with all faults”, and is subject to TI’s Important Notice (http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/legal/important-notice.shtml).

  • Hi Stefano

    I have got it, appreciate for your help.

    I have not pay much more attention to the following difference between Vstart in Ruvlo2 and Vstop in R2. 

    The two equations should be same except for the 0.944 in R1.

  • Hi Stefano

    Referring from the following 6 formulas, I calculate the R1 and R2 again.

    When I use formulas (1)(2) or (3)(4), I get the same result that R1=88.23k and R2=36.43k. This is right.

    But when I use formulas (5)(6) with the 0.944, I get a result that R1=22.35k and R2=10.30k. These have so much differrences from the above result.

    So I wonder, where the 0.944 comes from? And when should we use the 0.944?

    Here is my calculation excel for your referrence. thanks for your help.

    UVLO_Calculation.xlsx

  • Hi Kingson,

    Thank you for your question.

    As a general consideration, you should remember that the two devices are very different; in particular TPS54319 is low voltage device whereas TPS54561 can support up to 60V VIN. This means that, even if this feature is the same, the IC implementation is very different and could lead also to different reference formulas.

    Please refer to the specific device datasheet during the design.

    I will check internally for more info on the 0.944 factor, but since the device is quite old only little documentation is available.

    By the way, are you using it for a new design?

    If so, I would advise you to refer to newer alternatives as TPS62826 for a 3A application.

    Thanks,

    Stefano

    All information in this correspondence and in any related correspondence is provided “as is” and “with all faults”, and is subject to TI’s Important Notice (http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/legal/important-notice.shtml).

  • Hi Stefano

    Thanks for your reply.

    Please let me know how the 0.944 factor comes from if you have any updates.

    Kingson

  • Hi Kingson,

    I will look into it and give you an update by tomorrow.

    Thanks,

    Stefano

    All information in this correspondence and in any related correspondence is provided “as is” and “with all faults”, and is subject to TI’s Important Notice (http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/legal/important-notice.shtml).

  • Hi Kingson,

    Thank you for your patience.

    The TPS54319 and TPS54561 have different EN voltage threshold. The TPS54319 has hysteresis of 1.25V (rising) and 1.18V (falling), while the TPS54561’s 1.2V threshold has no hysteresis. The coefficient should be related to the ratio of 1.18/1.25=0.944.  

    Thanks,

    Stefano

    All information in this correspondence and in any related correspondence is provided “as is” and “with all faults”, and is subject to TI’s Important Notice (http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/legal/important-notice.shtml).

  • Hi Stefano

    You are great. It helps me a lot.